+bfstats Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 The following thread in the Marketplace Forum: http://www.atariage.com/forums/index.php?s...127770&st=0 ...prompted me to dig up my docs on Pleasant Valley Video of Camden Ohio. Below are JPEGs of their price list. Please look closely. You will see a number of vaporware titles. Hmmm... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 Did they seriously have all these for the prices listed? Like KidVid set for $20? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricDeLee Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 So what's the deal with this stuff. I thought they made their own carts and sold them (for example the TCM I just bought from atari2600). Did they sell legit stuff as well? Sigh! The prices on Waterworld/Video Jogger/Video Reflex/and even Video Life are nice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom Hunter Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 (edited) All VCS titles are known to exist, some of them as a prototype. Thanks for sharing! Edited July 17, 2008 by Rom Hunter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegamatrix Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 I see Dumbo's Flying Circus is listed too. So maybe there is a NTSC prototype somewhere? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZylonBane Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 Grrrrrr. Speak not of Pleasant Valley Video. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
user42 Posted July 18, 2008 Share Posted July 18, 2008 Very nice scans. Thanks for sharing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superdevil Posted July 18, 2008 Share Posted July 18, 2008 Wow! I'd forgotten about these guys. I ordered the Texas Chainsaw Massacre when I was a kid and it came in a generic blue Nintendo case with no instructions. The label was handwritten and it looked just like the one in the AVGN review. I was HUGELY dissapointed not only in the condition it arrived but in the game itself. I think the second order was for "Alien" which never came. I waited for about a whole year for it before I gave up. This would have been about 1992 or so. Whatever happened to PVV? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+bfstats Posted July 18, 2008 Author Share Posted July 18, 2008 Grrrrrr. Speak not of Pleasant Valley Video. Ohhh, now you've done it. Bad experience with PVV??? Please elaborate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hhwolfman Posted July 18, 2008 Share Posted July 18, 2008 This is nice, THanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZylonBane Posted July 18, 2008 Share Posted July 18, 2008 Grrrrrr. Speak not of Pleasant Valley Video. Ohhh, now you've done it. Bad experience with PVV??? Please elaborate. The usual one. Sent money, received something. Sent a lot more money, received nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Posted July 18, 2008 Share Posted July 18, 2008 The usual one. Sent money, received something. Sent a lot more money, received nothing. Reminds me of an article I read about Ponzi schemes. These are fake investments where the scam artist returns unusually high profits at first to generate buzz about the investment then disappears with all the cash when the real money starts pouring in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+bfstats Posted July 18, 2008 Author Share Posted July 18, 2008 Grrrrrr. Speak not of Pleasant Valley Video. Ohhh, now you've done it. Bad experience with PVV??? Please elaborate. The usual one. Sent money, received something. Sent a lot more money, received nothing. Welcome to THE CLUB. Anyone else want to join? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Mitch Posted July 19, 2008 Share Posted July 19, 2008 I see Dumbo's Flying Circus is listed too. So maybe there is a NTSC prototype somewhere? Check out this one Tempest just sent to me. Mitch Dumbo_5_5_83.bin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegamatrix Posted July 19, 2008 Share Posted July 19, 2008 Yes, that one is clearly NTSC. Great stuff Mitch and Tempest! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegamatrix Posted July 19, 2008 Share Posted July 19, 2008 Looking at the early date of the prototype I wonder if Atari meant to release an NTSC version, or if it was simplier to work with an NTSC model on their TV's, and convert the scanlines to PAL at the last minute? If an NTSC prototype is ever found with a date higher then some of the PAL ones then it would point to Atari making both a PAL and NTSC version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Mitch Posted July 19, 2008 Share Posted July 19, 2008 Looking at the early date of the prototype I wonder if Atari meant to release an NTSC version, or if it was simplier to work with an NTSC model on their TV's, and convert the scanlines to PAL at the last minute? If an NTSC prototype is ever found with a date higher then some of the PAL ones then it would point to Atari making both a PAL and NTSC version. I'm not sure I follow you, it seems like Atari usually wrote the NTSC version first and then converted it to PAL. For Dumbo it looks like the NTSC one we have is dated 5-5-83 and the PAL one is 7-11-83. Checking Atariprotos.com there appears to be an undumped proto dated 5-27-83 as well. This one could be a slightly more complete NTSC version or an earlier PAL version. That seems to be about right timing wise with the PAL one dated a month to two months later than the NTSC one. Mitch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegamatrix Posted July 19, 2008 Share Posted July 19, 2008 I guess what I meant was I'm not sure if the NTSC version is complete as I didn't play it much in the emulator, and I thought Dumbo might have been meant to be PAL only. What you said about NTSC built first and converted makes sense though, Mitch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted July 19, 2008 Share Posted July 19, 2008 I guess what I meant was I'm not sure if the NTSC version is complete as I didn't play it much in the emulator, and I thought Dumbo might have been meant to be PAL only. What you said about NTSC built first and converted makes sense though, Mitch. All games were programmed NTSC then converted to PAL. At least all of those programmed by Atari in the US. Tempest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Jentzsch Posted July 20, 2008 Share Posted July 20, 2008 All games were programmed NTSC then converted to PAL. At least all of those programmed by Atari in the US. I doubt that. We found a number of Atari prototypes with ~285 scanlines which is in the middle between NTSC and PAL. Maybe the colors where NTSC, but not the frequency. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincYnoTi Posted May 28, 2020 Share Posted May 28, 2020 I was re-telling some of the PVV story and found the address (again) in the PDF. I'd looked this up on google maps once before and thought about making a trip to see it in person. But from the google images, it looks like any other rural location. Preble County's web site is tough to navigate, but I did finally find the parcel and info on 8141 Pleasant Valley Rd: https://www.preblecountyauditor.org/Data.aspx?ParcelID=C07431440000006000 The earliest sale shown there was from an un-named seller in 1993. No mention of Redd on the property though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nester Posted May 30, 2020 Share Posted May 30, 2020 I half expected to see an Atari version of Yeah Yeah Beebis I on here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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