IndusGT Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 I was wondering if the Sikor Soft folks lurking here are thinking of finishing Mr. Proper. There still seems to be a market for limited editions/cartridges at least judging for what some of the Hobgloblin stuff went for. For those that don't know, there are still shots and a demo downloadable from: http://sikorsoft.internetdsl.pl/atari/mrproper.html It's similar to Rockman from Mirage with better music and control, great game . May be we can get other programmers to work on it. Fandal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+CharlieChaplin Posted December 24, 2008 Share Posted December 24, 2008 Well, Sikor is only the publisher ! Aleksander Martin is the author of the game "Mr. Proper". Afaik, Aleksander wanted around 2000 Dollars for finishing the game. This was way too much and no-one (including Sikor Soft) wanted to pay such a high sum just to see this game completed... On the other hand, the demo version already has 8 screens / levels, more than a lot of the old games (e.g. Kangaroo, Donkey Kong, etc. have less screens)... greetings, Andreas Koch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaz atarionline.pl Posted December 25, 2008 Share Posted December 25, 2008 Sikor is only the publisher ! Aleksander Martin is the author of the game "Mr. Proper". Afaik, Aleksander wanted around 2000 Dollars for finishing the game. This was way too much and no-one (including Sikor Soft) wanted to pay such a high sum just to see this game completed... On the other hand, the demo version already has 8 screens / levels, more than a lot of the old games (e.g. Kangaroo, Donkey Kong, etc. have less screens)... greetings, Andreas Koch. I was talking to Aleksander Martin about Mr.Proper game long time ago, I think it was around 2005 or 2006. He explained that money couldn't convince him to finish this program, but he still thought about complete this game just for his pleasure. However, he doesn't have sources and don't want to spend too much time for reengineering or writting everything from a start point. In my opinion it means that Mr.Proper will never be finished. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sikor Posted December 25, 2008 Share Posted December 25, 2008 I was talking to Aleksander Martin about Mr.Proper game long time ago, I think it was around 2005 or 2006. He explained that money couldn't convince him to finish this program, but he still thought about complete this game just for his pleasure. However, he doesn't have sources and don't want to spend too much time for reengineering or writting everything from a start point. In my opinion it means that Mr.Proper will never be finished. You wrong Kaz. I don't remember of Aleksander's proposition for me, but only one problem was an astronomic cost of it. Unfortunately, Alex don't finish many projects... And, I think - he's newer finish them ;( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carmel_andrews Posted December 25, 2008 Share Posted December 25, 2008 Do you have some code sikor, perhaps the game can be ressurected in some way, or perhaps fandal can re-engineer the code and make some more levels Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sikor Posted December 25, 2008 Share Posted December 25, 2008 (edited) Do you have some code sikor, perhaps the game can be ressurected in some way, or perhaps fandal can re-engineer the code and make some more levels No, I don't have it ;( It is only demo - so, from me is no problem, if anyone wants reingerening that. But - I think - about doing this someone can ask Alex. Edited December 25, 2008 by Sikor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Fandal_ Posted December 25, 2008 Share Posted December 25, 2008 Hi all! Source codes can be created very easily. We have the tools. But finishing game is a very different story. BTW, what is not finished on this game? F. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaz atarionline.pl Posted December 26, 2008 Share Posted December 26, 2008 You wrong Kaz. What is wrong? If you didn't understand my statements I can explain again . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndusGT Posted December 27, 2008 Author Share Posted December 27, 2008 as far as finishing the game, I thought I read somewhere the final version would have color and obviously more levels. The demo is in black and white. I would be really nice if someone would finish it. Money can still be made by turning into a limited edition cartridge like Yoomp or Hobgoblin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam242 Posted December 27, 2008 Share Posted December 27, 2008 Okay, I'm sure this will come off as a really stupid question, but why can't I get the demo version to play? Pressing <start> or any other console key does nothing, as does the fire button... I'd love to see and play this. What am I doing wrong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plastron Posted December 27, 2008 Share Posted December 27, 2008 Okay, I'm sure this will come off as a really stupid question, but why can't I get the demo version to play? Pressing <start> or any other console key does nothing, as does the fire button... I'd love to see and play this. What am I doing wrong? Just run it on PC with EMU and the shift key starts the game not sure if it is same on real hardware Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aleksander Posted December 27, 2008 Share Posted December 27, 2008 Hello everybody :-) As the author of this game I just wanted to explain someting. The game was written by me a long long time ago in 1997 as far as I remember. There were a few different versions with less graphics and different engine, but I decided to rewrite everyting and made the first full graphics background game. I do have all sources and binaries on my 5.25" diskettes and I will convert them to ATR if the disks are still readable. I juest need to buy RS-2-USB converter for SIO-2-PC first :-) I would still like to finish the game, but as some people know I have no time to do so :-( I would need to rewrite from scratch a part of game engine, make new levels, write more music etc. Maybe, if somebody could help me, I would find some time? Maybe I will give all the sources to the public? I cannot tell you more or promise anything at the moment, but I hope to give you the answer within 4-5 weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carmel_andrews Posted December 27, 2008 Share Posted December 27, 2008 I think this a a job that fandal or heavan/mr sikorsoft himself or xxl can help with Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomSW Posted December 27, 2008 Share Posted December 27, 2008 I think this a a job that fandal or heavan/mr sikorsoft himself or xxl can help with LOL - that why lamers should learn assembler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tezz Posted December 27, 2008 Share Posted December 27, 2008 Aleksander that's great news. The game was really coming along well. I'm sure there's plenty here who can assist you to complete it or continue your work. Perhaps if you have limited free time yourself the game could be produced as a team effort and you could participate and oversee the work as part of the team. Team work has been very successsful in the past with other projects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allas Posted December 27, 2008 Share Posted December 27, 2008 I think this a a job that fandal or heavan/mr sikorsoft himself or xxl can help with And don't forget, you should pay at least $1000 for the work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndusGT Posted December 27, 2008 Author Share Posted December 27, 2008 As I stated before money can be made off the project, almost upfront. Yoomp, Hobgoblin, Tempest Extreem are good examples. You can certainly put me down for a say 'limited' edition cartridge or whatever other format you decide as long as it's not casette hehe, I'm sure that there are other people here that would go for it as well. So far on Gr8 's webpage 50 catridges have been sold of Hobgoblin. Hopefully more people will reply to this thread expressing interest in buying new games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaz atarionline.pl Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 Alex send me one of beta versions made by him in 1997 and recently found: http://atarionline.pl/v01/index.phtml?suba...&ct=nowinki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+CharlieChaplin Posted March 18, 2009 Share Posted March 18, 2009 (edited) Well, on the A8 it is the same as on the emulator, press the SHIFT key to start the game. Here is the demo-version I have, it is the same as the ones floating around - but it is compressed with Code3 cruncher (so it can be loaded from DOS) and has some short info text... -Andreas Koch. Edited March 18, 2009 by CharlieChaplin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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