JohnPolka Posted February 7, 2019 Share Posted February 7, 2019 aside from the mostly text version, there was Mac DOS and Windows version across the board... plenty of color pictures and game play each having some good parts. Oregan Trail The Oregon Trail (1971) The Oregon Trail (1985) Oregon Trail II The Oregon Trail 3rd Edition The Oregon Trail 4th Edition The Oregon Trail 5th Edition The Oregon Trail (2009) The Oregon Trail:American_Settler The Oregon Trail (2011) The Amazon Trail The Amazon Trail Amazon Trail II Amazon Trail 3rd Edition Other titles The Yukon Trail MayaQuest: The Mystery Trail Africa Trail Wow, what a series! Black and white for night, color for day? or maybe color for notable things that are happening. Just different ideas bouncing about You can also add "Westward Ho!" to the list. Here's a partial description from the book, Basic Computer Adventures [David Ahl, 1986]: Westward Ho! is a substantial revision of the Oregon Trail program written by Dan Rawitsch and Bill Heinemann in 1972–73 on the Hewlett Packard 2000 timesharing system of the Minnesota Educational Computer Consortium. The original Oregon Trail program was subsequently converted to Microsoft BASIC and appeared in Creative Computing magazine in 1977. Play of the game is similar in this new version, but the program has been structured (to some extent), simplified, and shortened by more than 300 lines. You can read more and see the source code at https://www.atariarchives.org/bca/Chapter02_WestwardHo.php -JP 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+sixersfan105 Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 While it's obviously not a classic compared to Oregon Trail, Yukon Trail (1994, MECC) was done really well. That was my youth right there. That and Oregon Trail II (1995). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+davidcalgary29 Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 ... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Mynott Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 The Mac and Windows versions of The Oregon Trail were pretty much the same thing. The DOS version of The Oregon Trail was basically the same as the Apple II version. There are at least two versions of Oregon Trail on DOS. The original is pretty much the same as the well known A2 version. The "Deluxe" is just like the Mac version only in colour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nukey Shay Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 This is the version I have. MECC v1.2 from 1980 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Z5zwA-tw3Q Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+MrFish Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 There are at least two versions of Oregon Trail on DOS. The original is pretty much the same as the well known A2 version. The "Deluxe" is just like the Mac version only in colour. The deluxe version was in color, on color Macs. It was released for the Macs in 1991; Mac II's existed since 1987... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+davidcalgary29 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 This is the version I have. MECC v1.2 from 1980 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Z5zwA-tw3Q Okay, this is probably an irrelevant point ( and I haven't played this in ages), but can anyone tell me why any state is shown at all in the western US for that date aside from Missouri and Iowa? Wasn't this supposed to be "edutainment"? There must be a version out there without these anachronisms, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_The Doctor__ Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 perhaps the map should have been drawn as a hybrid region/territory/state map... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlsson Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 Perhaps if the game used a 1848 map, the students would get confused as the borders were different from the current map they learned in other classes. https://www.davidrumsey.com/luna/servlet/detail/RUMSEY~8~1~1218~90132:Map-Of-The-United-States-Of-America 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JagChris Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 I have downloaded the A8 Oregon trail from Atarimania and another source. Neither source loads successfully on my 600XL and show up greyed out on my SD setup from The Brewing Academy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JagChris Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 I see what seems to be going on here. Its a raw basic file just sitting there not assigned to a disk image. I think I need to get it assigned to one somehow. Anyone know how I can do that with the SD MAX? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Philsan Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 20 minutes ago, JagChris said: I see what seems to be going on here. Its a raw basic file just sitting there not assigned to a disk image. I think I need to get it assigned to one somehow. Anyone know how I can do that with the SD MAX? I put the file on a disk with @JAC! autoboot routine, that enables Basic if it's disabled. Oregon Trail (1982)(SoftSwap).atr 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JagChris Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 (edited) 55 minutes ago, Philsan said: I put the file on a disk with @JAC! autoboot routine, that enables Basic if it's disabled. Oregon Trail (1982)(SoftSwap).atr 90.02 kB · 1 download Thank you. In the long run though I think I need to learn how to assign files to images. Edited October 5, 2023 by JagChris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+MrFish Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 7 hours ago, Philsan said: I put the file on a disk with @JAC! autoboot routine, that enables Basic if it's disabled. Oregon Trail (1982)(SoftSwap).atr 90.02 kB · 2 downloads Is this just supposed to be a hacked/ripped version of the original MECC game for the Atari called "Oregon"? [Edit: Answer, no. See below, and the post by Atarimania earlier in the thread.] It seems very similar. I played it and found a bug while in the shooting phase (endless loop to nowhere). I'll prefer the original MECC version released by Atari, which also has a manual and includes several other official MECC games. Never had any problems playing it. Expeditions 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+MrFish Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 Here's the opening REM lines from "The Oregon Trail" from SoftSwap (posted by @Philsan ). 0 REM OREGON TRAIL JANUARY 1982 1 REM 2 REM SIMULATES PIONEER WAGON 3 REM TRIP TO THE WEST 4 REM 5 REM ATARI/40K 6 REM 7 REM DAN RAWITCH 8 REM CREATIVE COMPUTING 1978 9 REM ADAPTED BY TOM BEAL,KEITH ROLLIN AND CHRIS EDWARDS 10 REM ATARI VERSION BY JEFF WHITTAKER 15 REM ?????????????????????????????? 16 REM | SAN MATEO COUNTY | 17 REM | OFFICE OF EDUCATION | 18 REM | & | 19 REM | COMPUTER-USING EDUCATORS | 20 REM | | 21 REM | SOFTSWAP | 22 REM | | 23 REM |333 MAIN STREET,REDWOOD CITY| 24 REM |CA 94063 (415)364-5600EX4401| 25 REM ?????????????????????????????? 28 REM 29 REM ?????????????????????????????? 30 REM | PROGRAM MAY BE COPIED FOR | 31 REM | EDUCATIONAL USE ONLY AND | 32 REM | MAY NOT BE SOLD. COPYRIGHT | 33 REM | 1982 CUE,INC | 34 REM ?????????????????????????????? So, it was their own adaptation from the Creative Computing 1978 game, different from MECC's but similar for obvious reasons. @www.atarimania.com mentions San Mateo County Office of Education and SoftSwap earlier in this thread. Their version and many other programs by them (SoftSwap) can be found on Atarimania (all public domain / non-commercial). MECC also released Expeditions in 1982, a year before its release with Atari. That version, which also includes documentation, has an entry on Atarimania, but the software itself isn't available. I recommend the MECC version on Expeditions released with Atari. The SoftSwap version seems to have a bug (mentioned above) in the hunting routine. I also noticed that the keyboard input routine for hunting was slow and regularly missed keystrokes on the SoftSwap version. The two versions are generally similar, but have some minor textual differences and information display differences. Status information is always displayed at the top of the MECC version, except during hunting. The SoftSwap version only displays the status information at the end of each round of events/choices. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
www.atarimania.com Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 You may want to give this one a try as well: http://www.atarimania.com/game-atari-400-800-xl-xe-pioneer-experience-_3972.html It's closer to an adventure but the inspiration is obvious. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdefabri Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 3 minutes ago, www.atarimania.com said: You may want to give this one a try as well: http://www.atarimania.com/game-atari-400-800-xl-xe-pioneer-experience-_3972.html It's closer to an adventure but the inspiration is obvious. The author went on to bigger and very lucrative things!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DjayBee Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 14 minutes ago, rdefabri said: The author went on to bigger and very lucrative things!! Yep but he started in our territory and made several porgrams. Open the above link to Atarimania and click on his name. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+MrFish Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 1 hour ago, www.atarimania.com said: You may want to give this one a try as well: http://www.atarimania.com/game-atari-400-800-xl-xe-pioneer-experience-_3972.html It's closer to an adventure but the inspiration is obvious. Thanks, I hadn't seen that one before. I'll have to spend some time with it. From a quick look, it seems to be written as somewhat of an RPG-style/roaming game, rather than just following the trail continually. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+MrFish Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 1 hour ago, DjayBee said: Yep but he started in our territory and made several porgrams. Open the above link to Atarimania and click on his name. Quite a few programs for Epyx and Crystalware. Nothing very noteworthy, except maybe Flapper for Romox. A lot of RPG-type stuff. Escape from Vulcan's Isle has a decent rating by a few people; never heard of it myself. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goochman Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, MrFish said: Quite a few programs for Epyx and Crystalware. Nothing very noteworthy, except maybe Flapper for Romox. A lot of RPG-type stuff. Escape from Vulcan's Isle has a decent rating by a few people; never heard of it myself. Also "The Nightmare" and one other - all based on the same scrolling modified char set engine it seems. I enjoyed breaking into Vulcans Isle and Nightmare to make some changes If you do play Vulacns Isle you need to make sure the disk is not write protected. My "copy" I had write protected for some reason and I could never finish the game (atleast what I thought was the finish) - I combed through the entire island like 10 times and figured my copy was broken. Once I removed the write protect tab the final sequence played out - not sure what it was writing to disk but cost me some hours! Edited October 5, 2023 by Goochman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JagChris Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 4 hours ago, rdefabri said: The author went on to bigger and very lucrative things!! He was really prolific. Spit out that many titles in 2_years. Only half seem to have any representation on YouTube. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+MrFish Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 From Wikipedia: Benioff founded Salesforce in 1999[18] in a San Francisco apartment and defined its mission in a marketing statement as "The End of Software."[19] This was a slogan he used frequently to preach about software on the Web... Another one of these guys... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bfollowell Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 28 minutes ago, MrFish said: From Wikipedia: Benioff founded Salesforce in 1999[18] in a San Francisco apartment and defined its mission in a marketing statement as "The End of Software."[19] This was a slogan he used frequently to preach about software on the Web... Another one of these guys... That same article goes on to state: As of February 2022, Benioff had an estimated net worth of US$8.31 billion according to Bloomberg Billionaires Index. So, I'd say he's done very well for himself, wealth-wise anyway. He's came a long way from his humble Atari 8-bit beginnings! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JagChris Posted October 6, 2023 Share Posted October 6, 2023 6 hours ago, bfollowell said: That same article goes on to state: As of February 2022, Benioff had an estimated net worth of US$8.31 billion according to Bloomberg Billionaires Index. So, I'd say he's done very well for himself, wealth-wise anyway. He's came a long way from his humble Atari 8-bit beginnings! 😮 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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