sometimes99er Posted July 31, 2012 Author Share Posted July 31, 2012 What do you use to bring that up? MAME. Vulgus. Play/shoot or wait for attract mode. “P” to pause. “F4” shows palette, decoded graphics and any tilemaps. Use “Enter” to switch between the three modes (palette, graphics and tilemaps). Controls vary slightly, but try Page Up/Down and Arrowkeys. "R" to rotate characters. F4 again to quit. Also what are you using to rip? A quick and dirty fiddle with my Limelight font ripper (C#). File was "1-3d.bin". Not a pretty sight ... FileStream fs = new FileStream(file.FileName, FileMode.Open, FileAccess.Read); long fl = fs.Length; BinaryReader r = new BinaryReader(fs); int b, i, j, x, y, z; for (z = 0; z < 64; z++) { for (y = 0; y < 32; y++) { for (x = 0; x < 8; x++) { for (j = 0; j < 2; j++) { if (fl > 0) { b = r.ReadByte(); i = ((b & 128) >> 6) + ((b & >> 3); bmp.SetPixel(0 + j * 4 + y * 8, x + z * 8, colors[i]); i = ((b & 64) >> 5) + ((b & 4) >> 2); bmp.SetPixel(1 + j * 4 + y * 8, x + z * 8, colors[i]); i = ((b & 32) >> 4) + ((b & 2) >> 1); bmp.SetPixel(2 + j * 4 + y * 8, x + z * 8, colors[i]); i = ((b & 16) >> 3) + (b & 1); bmp.SetPixel(3 + j * 4 + y * 8, x + z * 8, colors[i]); } fl--; } } } } Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthew180 Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 Cool. Doing it about the same as me. :-) objnum = 0; po = 32; // characters use palette 32-47 for ( spy = 0 ; spy < 32 ; spy++ ) { for ( spx = 0 ; spx < 16 ; spx++ ) { for ( iy = 0 ; iy < 8 ; iy++ ) { offset = (objnum * 64) + (iy * ; // 64 = object's w*h for ( ix = 0 ; ix < 8 ; ix++ ) { pix = chardata[offset + ix] + po; glColor3f(pal256[pix][0], pal256[pix][1], pal256[pix][2]); // glVertex3f(x + (ix * pixsize), y + (iy * pixsize), z); glVertex3f(x + (iy * pixsize), y + 14 - (ix * pixsize), z); } } objnum++; if ( objnum > 128 ) x += (8 * pixsize); else x += (8 * pixsize) + 1; } x = 900; if ( objnum > 128 ) y += (8 * pixsize); else y += (8 * pixsize) + 1; } Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Gemintronic Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 I know this is the TI section but I'm at a loss trying to find this Sharp MZ-700 font. See these screenshots? http://30th700.hatenablog.com/ They have horizontal and vertical gradients that I just don't see in the Euro or Japanese fonts. Does anyone know which font set these characters come from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sometimes99er Posted August 1, 2012 Author Share Posted August 1, 2012 Hmmm, to me they appear exactly the same as the one(s) I posted in #230. Perhaps they appear a bit blurry, but that's due to some web resizing. If you (save and) open the images, you might view them pixel sharp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Gemintronic Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 (edited) Hmmm, to me they appear exactly the same as the one(s) I posted in #230. Perhaps they appear a bit blurry, but that's due to some web resizing. If you (save and) open the images, you might view them pixel sharp. Thanks for looking. Yeah, you got the alpha-numeric characters down. I'm seeing block gradients though. Things beyond one half solid blocks more like 1/4 and 1/3 and 2/8 of a solid block in those pictures.. Edited August 1, 2012 by theloon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sometimes99er Posted August 1, 2012 Author Share Posted August 1, 2012 (edited) Does this help in any way ? http://www.sharpmz.o...0/codetabjp.htm The games were a bit poor because of the low resolution (which was actually graphical characters), but there were 512 graphic characters in ROM, which can be used to offset it (sort of). http://www.old-computers.com/MUSEUM/computer.asp?c=87 Edited August 1, 2012 by sometimes99er Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Gemintronic Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 (edited) Does this help in any way ? http://www.sharpmz.o...0/codetabjp.htm The games were a bit poor because of the low resolution (which was actually graphical characters), but there were 512 graphic characters in ROM, which can be used to offset it (sort of). http://www.old-compu...mputer.asp?c=87 I appreciate an extra pair of eyes with good searching skills. If YOU can't find it then I know it isn't me. See the curve in her green hair and angle of the red sleeve on her shirt? Those seem to be characters in the MZ-700 font that are either rows of eight pixel lines or columns of eight pixel lines. I can't find those characters in any of the typical MZ-700 font sets. As long as I know what they are I can manually reproduce them. Wait.. wait.. er, I finally saw them in the link you provided sometimes99er! I guess they interspersed them within the character set in a way I didn't expect. Again, thanks for the second pair of eyes! Edited August 2, 2012 by theloon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sometimes99er Posted August 2, 2012 Author Share Posted August 2, 2012 (edited) Yep, as I read it, any of 512 can be used on screen at the same time, with the extra bit (8 bits = 1 byte = 256 possible) in the high order of the color byte. Edited August 2, 2012 by sometimes99er Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willsy Posted November 3, 2012 Share Posted November 3, 2012 Aggghhh! What happened to the pictures of the fonts? I was looking for a font... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willsy Posted November 3, 2012 Share Posted November 3, 2012 I was hoping to find a character set like 33 or 41 with lower case as well as upper case... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sometimes99er Posted November 3, 2012 Author Share Posted November 3, 2012 Aggghhh! What happened to the pictures of the fonts? I was looking for a font... You can visually go through them all using this http://sometimes.pla.../pineapple.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sometimes99er Posted November 3, 2012 Author Share Posted November 3, 2012 (edited) I was hoping to find a character set like 33 or 41 with lower case as well as upper case... How about 0067 ? Edited April 9, 2013 by sometimes99er Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willsy Posted November 3, 2012 Share Posted November 3, 2012 Thanks found one! Quick macro in Notepad++ converts it to Forth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthew180 Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 (edited) . Edited February 12, 2013 by matthew180 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willsy Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 Excellent! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tursi Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 You can visually go through them all using this http://sometimes.pla.../pineapple.html D'oh.. I was looking for a font too, and the URL is not working anymore. Updates? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sometimes99er Posted February 10, 2013 Author Share Posted February 10, 2013 Sorry. It's under maintenance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tursi Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 Okay, thanks! I found I'd saved them off, so I got what I needed. Thanks for the collection again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthew180 Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 (edited) . Edited February 12, 2013 by matthew180 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sometimes99er Posted February 10, 2013 Author Share Posted February 10, 2013 The F18A has all of the font definitions that were current (000-266) when I finalized the firmware, plus a few others that are not part of sometimes99er's list. Nice gesture. Copy the collection and add some not offered to this list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tursi Posted February 10, 2013 Share Posted February 10, 2013 Tursi, check out post #264. Yep, saw that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthew180 Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 Nice gesture. Copy the collection and add some not offered to this list. http://electrickeet.com/line-itfont.html Thanks for guilt-trip. A simple "hey, mind sharing the fonts?" perhaps? Honestly I was so busy just trying to get everything wrapped up, it never crossed my mind. Google: "8-bit fonts" and you will find more fonts than you could ever hope to include. Sorry for pissing you off, I'll remove the collection from the firmware in my next update. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retrospect Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 ooooh .... fonts .... lots of them ..... seen one from your URL that looked like the "head over heels" font from the Atari A800 .... might use that one in one my planned games. RXB game next, strategy based dealer type game thingy. Let's keep the love homeys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+retroclouds Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 This is too bad. Would be so cool if you guys could agree to keep the existings fonts in the F18A nonetheless. Please, just think about it once more. Why? A game using a built-in font should look the same no matter what firmware revision you are using. Guess that you will always have some F18A's out there that won't be upgraded when a new firmware is released. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sometimes99er Posted February 11, 2013 Author Share Posted February 11, 2013 (edited) http://electrickeet....ine-itfont.html Thanks for guilt-trip. A simple "hey, mind sharing the fonts?" perhaps? Honestly I was so busy just trying to get everything wrapped up, it never crossed my mind. Google: "8-bit fonts" and you will find more fonts than you could ever hope to include. Sorry for pissing you off, I'll remove the collection from the firmware in my next update. Sorry for hurting you feelings, Matthew180. On the other hand, a simple ”hey, mind me including the list in the F18A” perhaps ? Coming here announcing “others that are not part of sometimes99er's list”, just strikes me as caring for and promoting your own thing, only. I’ve heard of Google, but thanks for the link and directions as to how to do the search. And yes, the list is quite inferior, when you compare the two, thanks for pointing it out. I have guilt. I have been dancing on other peoples fonts while trying to hide the fact of Google. Shame on me. In principle I could make my own X9918B, include your functionality and write, in the F18A thread, that I’ve got a few things you haven’t. This might be somewhat discouraging at the other end, but I'm busy. Get it ? Please don’t tell me I can’t compare the mighty F18A with the font collection. You put in Google together with the list. Want to make me feel small and unimportant ? Copy the list, add some, rub it in, more than once, talk about guilt, and easily remove the insignificant list. Nice. Want me to rant about the Radeon HD 7970 - in your thread ? Proportions ? Come on, Google !? Bottomline. I’ll be cool about it. You can keep it. I’m glad you copied and expanded. You went here and pointed that out. Right now you got the list and more, in firmware, out there, ... Edited February 11, 2013 by sometimes99er Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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