+DarkLord Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 On 2/24/2021 at 10:29 AM, doctorclu said: I understand some BBSs used to have mods that could be played while visiting? At one time, there was an app/script for BBS Express! ST that would allow you to play music through the speaker of any Hayes compatible modem. DarkForce had this up and running at one point. It was actually pretty fun. Unfortunately, when we switched to telnet only, we lost the ability to use it and it was never updated to support some other means of playing the music. Musicomm, I think was it's name... Too bad the Lantronix UDS-10 doesn't have a speaker. Got a picture somewhere... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_The Doctor__ Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 16 minutes ago, DarkLord said: At one time, there was an app/script for BBS Express! ST that would allow you to play music through the speaker of any Hayes compatible modem. DarkForce had this up and running at one point. It was actually pretty fun. Unfortunately, when we switched to telnet only, we lost the ability to use it and it was never updated to support some other means of playing the music. Musicomm, I think was it's name... Too bad the Lantronix UDS-10 doesn't have a speaker. Got a picture somewhere... Time for a new device that would do this again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DarkLord Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 Just for historical significance and I know some of you are interested in various BBS software setups... According to the docs, this started out on Forem ST...at least all the examples in the docs refer to a Forem ST setup. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tillek Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 On 2/28/2021 at 12:47 PM, Amis said: Couple of Screen Shots Wait... 1990 and he's only going to 2400 baud????????????? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tillek Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 6 hours ago, _The Doctor__ said: Time for a new device that would do this again. Uh... no... I think we've sailed the ship of new devices.... maybe we could circle around and make some of the other devices work correctly before we go down that road. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnPolka Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 7 hours ago, DarkLord said: At one time, there was an app/script for BBS Express! ST that would allow you to play music through the speaker of any Hayes compatible modem. DarkForce had this up and running at one point. It was actually pretty fun. Unfortunately, when we switched to telnet only, we lost the ability to use it and it was never updated to support some other means of playing the music. Musicomm, I think was it's name... If you have a second serial port, can you play music through a Hayes compatible modem hooked up to the second serial port? -JP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amis Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 1 hour ago, Tillek said: Wait... 1990 and he's only going to 2400 baud????????????? Wait you think that's the only quirk - try, it need a joystick port style dongle to run - A ring detector in reverse, the 6 pin constant and will answer when its released.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DarkLord Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 51 minutes ago, JohnPolka said: If you have a second serial port, can you play music through a Hayes compatible modem hooked up to the second serial port? -JP Don't know - don't have a second serial port on DarkForces' Mega ST4. I would assume not though, unless the call was coming into *that* serial port... The BBS sends the data. An .ACC (desk accessory) on the ST, on the callers' end, plays the music. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doctorclu Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 19 hours ago, _The Doctor__ said: Time for a new device that would do this again. Hmmm... Atari only for the modem music? Wonder with term program? (not sure if that was mentioned). Wonder if the service that gave Dark Forces a dialup number when you dial in would let you use the hayes modem protocols? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tschak909 Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 The FujiNet has a DAC connected to the AUDIOIN pin, in reasonable earshot of a network interface... *whistles* -Thom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_The Doctor__ Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 1 hour ago, tschak909 said: The FujiNet has a DAC connected to the AUDIOIN pin, in reasonable earshot of a network interface... *whistles* -Thom sounds like shielding is needed... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnPolka Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 15 hours ago, Amis said: Wait you think that's the only quirk - try, it need a joystick port style dongle to run - A ring detector in reverse, the 6 pin constant and will answer when its released.. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DarkLord Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 On 3/4/2021 at 10:37 AM, doctorclu said: Hmmm... Atari only for the modem music? Wonder with term program? (not sure if that was mentioned). Wonder if the service that gave Dark Forces a dialup number when you dial in would let you use the hayes modem protocols? Okay, this is pretty amazing to me (and shows what a chowder-head I can be sometimes but....check this out!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tschak909 Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 I just uploaded 733 AMS files to #Fuji-FoReM-26M. -Thom 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazzspeed Posted March 10, 2021 Share Posted March 10, 2021 Can I just ask, is everyone experiencing the [Enter] issue under Syncterm running a Pi under Raspbian? Because I was experiencing the issue and recently decided to wipe and install TwisterOS on my Pi400, not only does TwisterOS crap all over Raspbian (it's not only faster, it's 'clearer' and more configurable). Anyway, I installed Syncterm as I always do by installing libncurses5-dev followed by libsdl1.2-dev and compiling from source and upon connecting to Southern Amis using ATASCII the return key and the backspace keys work as they should! No pressing [Ctrl] & [Enter]. So there you go, the issue isn't with the BBS or Syncterm - It's the operating system. Oh...And thanks Amis for noticing that I couldn't log in as I forgot to note down the screenie of my password before wiping and reformatting and helping me login, you saved my ass! 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazzspeed Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 On 3/5/2021 at 6:24 AM, JohnPolka said: JP, I signed up to Basement BBS and was enjoying reading all the past bantering when I was kicked off as I went over the time limit! Must be one busy BBS to have a time limit still active. A great BBS, I'll be back, to read the rest of the messages - And to hopefully have time to post a message of my own! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnPolka Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Mazzspeed said: JP, I signed up to Basement BBS and was enjoying reading all the past bantering when I was kicked off as I went over the time limit! Must be one busy BBS to have a time limit still active. A great BBS, I'll be back, to read the rest of the messages - And to hopefully have time to post a message of my own! Your account was not validated yet. But now that you are validated, you have more time. -JP Edited March 11, 2021 by JohnPolka Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazzspeed Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 13 minutes ago, JohnPolka said: Your account was not validated yet. But now that you are validated, you have more time. -JP I see, I thought it was odd that my session was limited. Cheers John! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnPolka Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 8 minutes ago, Mazzspeed said: I see, I thought it was odd that my session was limited. Cheers John! Yeah, we are all about the old school (or should I say old skool?) experience! That includes a "validation" process like back in the day. -JP 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonlight_mile Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 Yeah, we are all about the old school (or should I say old skool?) experience! That includes a "validation" process like back in the day. [emoji4] -JP I thought about making all new users validated. It isn’t really like the old days where we didn’t want someone loging in a d leech all our warez and then leave. I know in some instances it would allow hackers to log on and post dumb messages but I don’t know how often this really would be an issue. What do you think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amis Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 13 minutes ago, moonlight_mile said: I thought about making all new users validated. It isn’t really like the old days where we didn’t want someone loging in a d leech all our warez and then leave. I know in some instances it would allow hackers to log on and post dumb messages but I don’t know how often this really would be an issue. What do you think? Validate with the exception of Visitors is my current set up. I agreed, back in the day, validated and the tiers of access were incentive to contribute as well as controls access to warez. No longer needed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moonlight_mile Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 Validate with the exception of Visitors is my current set up. I agreed, back in the day, validated and the tiers of access were incentive to contribute as well as controls access to warez. No longer needed That’s kinda what I thought. I gotta check with JP as he was validating people during my absence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_The Doctor__ Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 (edited) @moonlight_mile Instant grabbification is no longer a thing and today we want them to leech... however, levels still matter sysops still need their private channel, networking still needs protecting, and certain people still need to stay away from posting... it's all fun and games until someone spams your eyes out and fills your message bases. Sometimes you just have a weenie who flames, fights, and simply won't go away. passwords, limits, and blacklisters still need to be, even to this day. Also consider there are still some pieces of software and images that are not in the public for various reasons. You won't find them at the usual places and you certainly won't find them on the forums. Alcatraz of all places should know who is a visitor, who should be admitted, who is general population, who should be restricted, who should be restrained, that the guards need an area, and that The Wardens still need a room to be away from all of that. The chow hall is still segregated. Some people should still be in solitary!! Edited March 11, 2021 by _The Doctor__ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DarkLord Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 Here at DarkForce, the validation process is still in effect. It's pretty generic and invisible to the caller though. Visitors obviously are restricted from a lot of things. That's just the nature of the beast. There's plenty enough content available to them though, for them to figure out whether or not they want to sign up permanently. BBS Express! ST v1.98a will allow the SysOp to set parameters so that a first time caller has a lot more permissions than a visitor. It also will allow the SysOp to "hold" that first time caller until the SysOp validates them. I decided not to take that route because I was worried that I might be gone for a few days and not call in to check, leaving the anxious and eager first time caller who really wants to be part of the Darkforce group unable to advance and use all of the BBS's resources and features. So...I've got it set so that if a first time caller is interested enough to call back and login again, they are auto-validated on the 2nd call. Good enough for me. Note that I still do check for new callers pretty much every time I login as SysOp, just to keep on top of things. Interesting historical stuff, way back in the day, when we were dial-up, I had a script running that would auto-call the first time users' phone number. If it failed, no validation, if it connected and was a legitimate number, then they were validated. I don't miss that though - there were too many chances for errors. Example, nobody answers, busy signal, etc, etc,... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_The Doctor__ Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 yup, call back validator was a thing, so was caller ID... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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