ctirad Posted December 29, 2013 Author Share Posted December 29, 2013 Today I sucessfully tested the RAM 320XE with IDE Plus 2.0. Happy New Year! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defender II Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Today I sucessfully tested the RAM 320XE with IDE Plus 2.0. Happy New Year! Congratulations! Please, let me know when you accept orders. What tests did you do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+wood_jl Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Such good news! Thanks for the update! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Larry Posted December 30, 2013 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Today I successfully tested the RAM 320XE with IDE Plus 2.0. Happy New Year! Great! IDE+2 Rev C or Rev D? (printed on the back) Hopefully both work, but there are probably more C's in service than D's. Thanks for the update. -Larry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mimo Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 does this work in the same way as the 320xl? ie, if you have dead ram know the xe it can be bypassed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctirad Posted January 11, 2014 Author Share Posted January 11, 2014 Yes. The "Remap" feature is still there. However, sometimes the bad ram chip constantly block the BUS by peramanent assertion to 0 or 1. In this case it is not possible to fix it just by connecting the external RAM and the chip must be unsoldered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctirad Posted January 11, 2014 Author Share Posted January 11, 2014 (edited) Congratulations! Please, let me know when you accept orders. What tests did you do? Just the basic I/O tests and expansion RAM tests to prove that there is not a conflict on the bus and that the drivers are strong enough for such daisy chaining. Edited January 11, 2014 by ctirad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctirad Posted January 11, 2014 Author Share Posted January 11, 2014 Great! IDE+2 Rev C or Rev D? (printed on the back) Hopefully both work, but there are probably more C's in service than D's. Well, I don't know. I haven't it there right now. I'll ask. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctirad Posted January 15, 2014 Author Share Posted January 15, 2014 Great! IDE+2 Rev C or Rev D? (printed on the back) Hopefully both work, but there are probably more C's in service than D's. Thanks for the update. -Larry It was Rev C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_The Doctor__ Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 never was clear ECI pass thru for MIO and Black Box? It is a Must have for me... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+wood_jl Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 While I understand the desire for ECI/PBI pass-through, I think the needs of this would be extremely-limited and therefore complicate and add expense to the design. If I had an MIO or Black Box (I do not) then I certainly would be "serious" enough in my Atari8 hobby to not mind having to get an actual (internal to the machine, traditional) memory upgrade. Daisy-chaining PBI/ECI devices through edge-card connectors sounds like asking for trouble, anyway. I'm just wanting the plug-in RAM upgrade, and although I wouldn't mind an MIO or Black Box, I have no plans on getting either, but I'd really like the RAM. I think I may be in the most common demographic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_The Doctor__ Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 Imagine stackable external ram modules... sorry just popped into my head.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathy Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 (edited) Hello guys Let's not limit ourselves to what's needed. Nobody needs a 128MB cart, Dual Stereo upgrade with Covox, VBXE, SIDE 1, 2, 3 or 256, memory upgrades, etc. We don't need Yoomp! and Crownland. And we sure as hell don't need smart phones. But the days when we lived in caves are long gone. We don't even use tapes to load software anymore (well, at least most of us don't). Nowadays we have the opportunity to design, produce and buy what we want, not just what we need. So yes, let's have the pass through PBI/ECI!!! Sincerely Mathy PS I'm considering ordering one of these RAM320XE's only because it's the only external RAM extension. But I'd prefer an external upgrade that uses the addresses the MIO uses, with at least 16MB. (Please don't tell me I don't need it. I know that. I WANT it!!!) Edited January 22, 2014 by Mathy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+wood_jl Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 I want a modern re-manufacture of the Black Box (and/or MIO) that has the RAM built-in on the device, and that uses SD cards as hard drives, all through the PBI/ECI. Please, someone make that!!! Until then please, send me 2x RAM 320XE! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Level42 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Any RAM 320XL's still available ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marius Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 PS I'm considering ordering one of these RAM320XE's only because it's the only external RAM extension. But I'd prefer an external upgrade that uses the addresses the MIO uses, with at least 16MB. (Please don't tell me I don't need it. I know that. I WANT it!!!) Not completely. The Freezer 2011 gives you also an external XE compatible ram extension, WITH pass through PBI port. I am using the Freezer 2011 not for the freezing feature, but just for the XE compatible RAM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashjazzcat Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 I want a modern re-manufacture of the Black Box (and/or MIO) that has the RAM built-in on the device, and that uses SD cards as hard drives, all through the PBI/ECI. I know it would add to the cost of the interface, but it definitely surprises me that absolutely no recent PBI HDD interfaces have any kind of PORTB RAM upgrade on them. SDX, RTC, banked PBI BIOS ROM with (probably) banked PBI RAM mapped into the $Dxxx region... but when I plug all this goodness into a stock 800XL, I'm still short of RAM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathy Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Hello Jon That's why we need an external RAM upgrade with a passthrough PBI/ECI that uses the addresses the MIO uses. You can use an upgrade like that with every other PBI/ECI device. Plus your normal XE upgrade. Sincerely Mathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashjazzcat Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 That's why we need an external RAM upgrade with a passthrough PBI/ECI that uses the addresses the MIO uses. You can use an upgrade like that with every other PBI/ECI device. Plus your normal XE upgrade. Yeah, I guess so. I was just thinking how cool (and convenient) an "all in one" would have been. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Larry Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Maybe that might become the "Rev E" IDE+2? Battery is already there. One SRAM +? And like the Turbo Freezer 2011, where the 512K works great with the IDE+2. And probably will be a lot less $$ than the Freezer. -Larry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathy Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Hello Larry No, all I want on this board is extra memory, so you can use it with whatever PBI/ECI device you want/have. Probably SRAM (no refresh needed) and maybe battery backed up. But that's all. Except maybe for an RTC-8 (OSS/ICD/FTE) compatible real time clock. Sincerely Mathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctirad Posted January 24, 2014 Author Share Posted January 24, 2014 Any RAM 320XL's still available ? No. But there will be annew enhanced version. One day... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctirad Posted January 25, 2014 Author Share Posted January 25, 2014 never was clear ECI pass thru for MIO and Black Box? It is a Must have for me... The production version of the card has only the cart connector fitted, but there are pads prepared for the ECI one as well. The ECI connector can be soldered on demand by me or any time later when needed. The mapping is 1:1 with the XE so in theory ANY ECI device shoud work, but there are also things like RF, BUS strenght etc.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathy Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 Hello Ctirad When will the RAM 320XE be available? And how much will it cost (including ECI connector)? Sincerely Mathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marius Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 @Mathy, You usually comment on anything that is directed to you, but as far as I see here, you missed (or ignored?) my reply to you. The Freezer 2011 does exact what you want. It is a XE compatible memory upgrade AND has PBI connector at backside, so you can connect your blackbox or other pbi devices to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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