PAC MAN FEVER Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 I read some where that the 800xl is not compatable with some 400/800 titles and that the peripherals dont work either is this true??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mckafka99 Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 Though I dont know the list of games, this was true. There was a program called (I think) 'XLFix' that needed be used with those games which wouldnt natively play on the XL. I've never heard of incompatible peripherals; though there may be some. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirage Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 Translator. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryoko Demon Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 Yes the translator is the one I use, theres 2 variations just boot up with it and then u can load the game that needs teh 400/800. It covers a change in the OS roms between 400/800 & later 8 bits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+skr Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 I read some where that the 800xl is not compatable with some 400/800 titles and that the peripherals dont work either is this true??? It´s new to me that peripherials don´t work. There might be only some which are incompatible because they need more than 2 Joystick-Ports, like the Eprommer I have. That one of course only works with the 400 and 800, because they have 4 Joyports. SIO-Devices should be fully compatible, but you might miss the PBI. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erazmus Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 The 1200XL is missing the 12v output on the SIO, so I suppose there are some SIO devices that won't work on the 1200XL, but I can't think of any. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+orpheuswaking Posted March 25, 2011 Share Posted March 25, 2011 The 1200XL is missing the 12v output on the SIO, so I suppose there are some SIO devices that won't work on the 1200XL, but I can't think of any. That's a fairly easy fix though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox-1 / mnx Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 so I suppose there are some SIO devices that won't work on the 1200XL, but I can't think of any. ICD's P:R Connection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spookt Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 XC11 and XC12 tape decks run from SIO power. As do many new SIO2Whatever media devices. These don't work on a 1200XL until you fix the SIO power. As has been said it is a very easy fix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sloopy Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 my sio2pc-usb doesnt use power from the A8, so works fine on a 1200XL :') sloopy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillC Posted March 31, 2011 Share Posted March 31, 2011 The 1200XL is missing the 12v output on the SIO, so I suppose there are some SIO devices that won't work on the 1200XL, but I can't think of any. The 400/800 are the only ones with +12V on the SIO port. The entire XL/XE computer line lack +12V on the SIO, not just the 1200XL. This can be fixed on the 1200XL fairly easily with a 7812 regulator and some wires, but would require more work on the others as only regulated +5VDC is available. It's easier to use an external power supply with such devices when used with the XL/XE series. The issue with the 1200XL was it had a 100 ohm current limiting resistor, R63, on the +5V SIO pin which also prevented +5V devices from being powered by it. To my knowledge it is the only Atari 8-bit with such a resistor, some 1200XLs didn't even have R63 installed which caused additional problems with some peripherals. The solution is to replace R63 with a jumper. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sloopy Posted April 1, 2011 Share Posted April 1, 2011 The 1200XL is missing the 12v output on the SIO, so I suppose there are some SIO devices that won't work on the 1200XL, but I can't think of any. The 400/800 are the only ones with +12V on the SIO port. The entire XL/XE computer line lack +12V on the SIO, not just the 1200XL. This can be fixed on the 1200XL fairly easily with a 7812 regulator and some wires, but would require more work on the others as only regulated +5VDC is available. It's easier to use an external power supply with such devices when used with the XL/XE series. The issue with the 1200XL was it had a 100 ohm current limiting resistor, R63, on the +5V SIO pin which also prevented +5V devices from being powered by it. To my knowledge it is the only Atari 8-bit with such a resistor, some 1200XLs didn't even have R63 installed which caused additional problems with some peripherals. The solution is to replace R63 with a jumper. need more then that... the AC voltage coming into the 1200XL is only 9v... a voltage doubler, and then through a 7812 would work... but then it would be the same on the XLXE... sloopy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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