jmmhooper Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 Hello, Getting back into this and I am wonder what DOS do you recommend using for an Atari 400 and 800? Not clear when I read about DOS 1,2,3 etc or spartados and mydos. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spookt Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 DOS2.5 is the defacto standard Atari produced DOS. SpartaDOS is my particular favourite, command line based and much closer in use to MSDOS. RealDOS and MyDOS are also popular picks. Really it depends on what you want to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fibrewire Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 I like SpartaDOS X. Almost all games whether disk or cart do not need dos - just boot straight from the game. The real problem will be lack of a SIO2PC (to connect your Atari to the computer), SIO2SD (to allow using a memory stick with your Atari), or some kind of hard drive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmmhooper Posted May 1, 2011 Author Share Posted May 1, 2011 I like SpartaDOS X. Almost all games whether disk or cart do not need dos - just boot straight from the game. The real problem will be lack of a SIO2PC (to connect your Atari to the computer), SIO2SD (to allow using a memory stick with your Atari), or some kind of hard drive. Thanks for the feedback, my SOI2PC will be in the mail Monday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a8isa1 Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 Hello, Getting back into this and I am wonder what DOS do you recommend using for an Atari 400 and 800? Not clear when I read about DOS 1,2,3 etc or spartados and mydos. Thanks I used MyDOS on my 800 for decades. Even though I mainly use an 800XL but I still like MyDOS because frankly I don't need many features. I do a small amount coding so I only need to be able to read and write to disk. My other need is gaming. MyDOS + MyPicoDOS (game menu) combination suits that nicely. Only SpartaDOS version 1 (1.1H? something like that) will run on 800. BeweDOS works, though, and can read/write most SpartaDOS disk format. SDX on 800? I don't know if that works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drac030 Posted May 1, 2011 Share Posted May 1, 2011 Hello, Getting back into this and I am wonder what DOS do you recommend using for an Atari 400 and 800? It depends on how much memory the computer has. SpartaDOS 3.2/RealDOS won't work, because they need the RAM under the ROM, which only XL/XEs have. For a 48k machine MyDOS will be the best I guess. If the 800 has 128k or more, SpartaDOS X is the best choice. SDX on 800? I don't know if that works. SpartaDOS X minimal requirements is 48k to startup, but it will only leave about 24k RAM free out of that. So technically it should work, but would be useless anyway. If the 800 has an Axlon RAM extension, it should work almost equally well as on a 130XE. But the latest versions haven't been tested with such hardware, because 800s are quite rare in Europe, and I never heard of anyone having 800 with Axlon extension. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilly Willy Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 I always loved TopDOS. That was an excellent DOS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Larry Posted May 2, 2011 Share Posted May 2, 2011 You don't see Top Dos mentioned here too frequently here. I also liked and used it for several years, but moved to MyDos when I got my first hard drive (MIO) back in the late eighties. Which version(s) do you use? -Larry I always loved TopDOS. That was an excellent DOS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmmhooper Posted May 3, 2011 Author Share Posted May 3, 2011 (edited) You don't see Top Dos mentioned here too frequently here. I also liked and used it for several years, but moved to MyDos when I got my first hard drive (MIO) back in the late eighties. Which version(s) do you use? -Larry I always loved TopDOS. That was an excellent DOS. It is an 800 with 48k so looks like MyDos it will will be, thanks Edited May 3, 2011 by jmmhooper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+bob1200xl Posted May 3, 2011 Share Posted May 3, 2011 Unless you have some kind of special requirements, use DOS 2.0S. All the 'old' products use it and there are lots of books for it, as well as tons of utilities and code. Bob Hello, Getting back into this and I am wonder what DOS do you recommend using for an Atari 400 and 800? Not clear when I read about DOS 1,2,3 etc or spartados and mydos. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilly Willy Posted May 4, 2011 Share Posted May 4, 2011 You don't see Top Dos mentioned here too frequently here. I also liked and used it for several years, but moved to MyDos when I got my first hard drive (MIO) back in the late eighties. Which version(s) do you use? 1.3 My brother also hacked it to work with his Happy drive speeder upper thingy. We used to do a lot of hacking on the Atari back in the early/mid 80s. It was a lot of fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themrfreeze Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 I'm just getting back into this too, and the thread jogged something in my memory. I seem to remember using a DOS back in the day that was made by Rana Systems maybe? Was that TopDOS? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Larry Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 SmartDos -- probably 6.x. Last version that I heard about was 8.2. BTW, I always liked the nice bright blue screen they chose. -Larry I'm just getting back into this too, and the thread jogged something in my memory. I seem to remember using a DOS back in the day that was made by Rana Systems maybe? Was that TopDOS? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtm Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 SmartDos -- probably 6.x. Last version that I heard about was 8.2. BTW, I always liked the nice bright blue screen they chose. -Larry What does "OBVERT RESIDUP" mean? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+hunmanik Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 Anyone have a Top-DOS version 1.3 download? Non-hacked? You don't see Top Dos mentioned here too frequently here. I also liked and used it for several years, but moved to MyDos when I got my first hard drive (MIO) back in the late eighties. Which version(s) do you use? 1.3 My brother also hacked it to work with his Happy drive speeder upper thingy. We used to do a lot of hacking on the Atari back in the early/mid 80s. It was a lot of fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+bf2k+ Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 SmartDos -- probably 6.x. Last version that I heard about was 8.2. BTW, I always liked the nice bright blue screen they chose. -Larry What does "OBVERT RESIDUP" mean? SmartDOS has a Disk Utilities Package that can either be held resident in memory (RESIDUP) or turned off depending on what the user wants. This brings back memories... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtm Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 What does "OBVERT RESIDUP" mean? SmartDOS has a Disk Utilities Package that can either be held resident in memory (RESIDUP) or turned off depending on what the user wants. This brings back memories... So in this case, obvert means turn it off? Or toggle it? --Kurt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashjazzcat Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 Toggle, I would think: causing the "Residup" status to switch on and off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themrfreeze Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 SmartDos -- probably 6.x. Last version that I heard about was 8.2. BTW, I always liked the nice bright blue screen they chose. SmartDOS....that's the one! There was some specific reason why I liked using it, but I can't remember what it was. Maybe it was able to format disks so you'd get 720 sectors instead of 707? Does that sound right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+bf2k+ Posted May 5, 2011 Share Posted May 5, 2011 SmartDos -- probably 6.x. Last version that I heard about was 8.2. BTW, I always liked the nice bright blue screen they chose. SmartDOS....that's the one! There was some specific reason why I liked using it, but I can't remember what it was. Maybe it was able to format disks so you'd get 720 sectors instead of 707? Does that sound right? No. It was generally a DOS 2 style disk - 707 free I believe. EDIT: I had to go check it - 707 free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilly Willy Posted May 6, 2011 Share Posted May 6, 2011 Anyone have a Top-DOS version 1.3 download? Non-hacked? I'll find a clean version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a8isa1 Posted May 6, 2011 Share Posted May 6, 2011 (edited) SDX on 800? I don't know if that works. SpartaDOS X minimal requirements is 48k to startup, but it will only leave about 24k RAM free out of that. So technically it should work, but would be useless anyway. If the 800 has an Axlon RAM extension, it should work almost equally well as on a 130XE. But the latest versions haven't been tested with such hardware, because 800s are quite rare in Europe, and I never heard of anyone having 800 with Axlon extension. cool! I was curious about this ability. I tried to use an SDX image in Atari800 emulator (2.2.1). It worked but I can't figure out how to enable the Axlon support. Atari800 tells me wrong memory size no matter what amount I choose. The exercise is moot since I neither have an SDX cartridge (or SDX capable cartridge) or an Axlon upgrade for my 800. Edited May 6, 2011 by a8isa1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russg Posted May 6, 2011 Share Posted May 6, 2011 SmartDos -- probably 6.x. Last version that I heard about was 8.2. BTW, I always liked the nice bright blue screen they chose. SmartDOS....that's the one! There was some specific reason why I liked using it, but I can't remember what it was. Maybe it was able to format disks so you'd get 720 sectors instead of 707? Does that sound right? SmartDOS was the earliest double density DOS, before MyDOS and SpartaDOS. It was made by the Rana drive people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtariGeezer Posted May 6, 2011 Share Posted May 6, 2011 Anyone have a Top-DOS version 1.3 download? Non-hacked? Check out this version of TopDOS, not sure which version. Also added two SmartDOS copies... TopDos01.ATR SmartDos01.ATR SmartDos-OmniMon01.ATR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russg Posted May 6, 2011 Share Posted May 6, 2011 What does "OBVERT RESIDUP" mean? SmartDOS has a Disk Utilities Package that can either be held resident in memory (RESIDUP) or turned off depending on what the user wants. This brings back memories... So in this case, obvert means turn it off? Or toggle it? --Kurt Toggle it, the RESIDUP status is up at the top of the screen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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