Sypran Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 Hello I finally want (and have the space to) to get a 2600 and start a collection. I was wondering what you guys would suggest when it comes to the different 2600 models. Many of you would probably say the H6, But I am not a collector and I just like something reliable. On a further note what are the dimensions of the 6 and 4 switch models? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boxpressed Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 I'd suggest a 7800. Not much more expensive than the 2600, and joystick ports are on the front. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armonigann Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 What he said for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconPunch Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 The six and four Switchers are the same size, about a foot deep and a bit more than a foot wide. Any system is fine, but I'd suggest a Vader system. They tend to be newer and they look cool. Aren't expensive either. But they are all reliable. Every one I've come across has worked, after some routine cleaning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconPunch Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 or go for a coleco Gemini. Better than an Atari in every way except for the fact that it isn't an Atari lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stan Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 I always like the Jr. Usually pretty cheap, they're small, compact, and play just fine. Nice retro look too and not as heavy as other models. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dommie Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 I second the Jr. For the average gamer this unit will be more reliable - the switches on the 4/6 switchers tend to get funky. Notably the select switch. And a LOT of 2600 games use the select switch. More importantly, buy whichever is cheaper (all things like condition being equal). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlowCoder Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 I second the Jr. For the average gamer this unit will be more reliable - the switches on the 4/6 switchers tend to get funky. Notably the select switch. And a LOT of 2600 games use the select switch. I heartedly disagree with you on the switch comment. The switches in the 4/6 switchers are hardcore, built back in a day when hardware was designed to last. Of the 4/6 switch Ataris I've rebuilt, most of which had been to hell before getting to me, I've only had intermittent problems with one switch. I cleaned it, and all was well. In contrast, the buttons on the 7800 and Jrs seem to fail much more often, and require replacement rather than being able to be repaired. As far as the original question by the OP, just do a little research on the different models, and see which strikes your fancy. If you just want to play, the 7800 isn't a bad machine, and gives you access to both 2600 and 7800 games. You can also get the 2600 Harmony cart, which will allow you to play about all of the 2600 ROMS. Also, the Harmony 2 is supposed to be out soon, and is designed to play 7800 ROMS. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
20ohm20 Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 I usually give four switch "woodys" to people as a first (or re-discovered) Atari 2600, mostly because they seem to be the most plentiful, cheapest and the model I have the most spare parts for. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pioneer4x4 Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 Get the cheapest working unit first! Then depending on what you like or dislike, use that to decide what all to get next. I recommend the Light 6 first, or a Jr. then maybe a 7800. 7800 and Jr. have removable RF cable, nice for cleaning up after, just tuck tha cable behind the TV, instead of getting to the back if it is kinda builtin like mine. BUT the 6 switch is exactly that. ALL 6 switches are easily accessible, very nice for games that use them as extra controls. And the 7800 is useless for those games. Light 6 = Cheapest way to fully enjoy all 2600 games as intended. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toiletunes Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 Go with whatever you happen to find first, but make sure it works. If you have a choice of consoles, it's a tough call. Right now, I have a couple light sixers, a 4-switch woody, and a 7800. The 7800 won't play certain games because they don't fit properly. Later (red label) games are a bit snug in the sixers, but playable. However, one of the sixers won't play Ms.Pac-Man, I get a black screen w/no audio (game works fine elsewhere) the other sixer won't play Adventure properly (the enemies don't move and there are graphic oddities) but it works fine elsewhere. The 4-switch seems to play everything no problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+LS650 Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 I think one 2600 is pretty much as reliable as another. I have noticed that the Jr model doesn't seem to put out quite as nice an RF signal as some of the older models. Personally I like the faux woodgrain look, but that's a personal taste. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Dart Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 A 7800's the best overall. I've had two and neither had any incompatibility issues that I noticed. They play Robot Tank just fine. The only problem was with M Network carts trying to pop back out of the cart slot, but leaning something with a little weight on them keeps them in, and not many are worth playing anyways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlvinKarpis Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 I have owned my Vader since 1986 and it still works perfectly However since I got my ColecoVision with the Expansion Module #1 I never really use my 2600 because I have to switch cabels Its much easier to just pop in the Expansion Module and play since my CV is always hooked up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schizophretard Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 "Start a collection" and "not a collector"? Since you are only getting one then that is a bigger reason than collecting to get a Heavy Sixer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimpmaul69 Posted October 14, 2011 Share Posted October 14, 2011 get a colecovision with an atari module for it. not only is the picture quality better but it is easy as hell to mod to have composite output. composite out mods picture/ color quality suck on an atari. then you can go to atarimax.com and get the sd cart for the colecovision and here for the harmony cart for the atari 2600. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torr Posted October 14, 2011 Share Posted October 14, 2011 (edited) Why is everyone so hung up on s-video and composite mods... the fucking thing came with a color/b&w switch and I remember hooking mine up with a butter knife many times. You wanna play PS3, fine do it in Hi Res, but outputting a VCS to Hi Res cabling is like hooking up your old 78 speeds to a 7.1 surround sound system.... totally un-fucking-necessary... isn't it that 'old school' feeling your trying to relive... God knows when I'm playing Asteroids the odd flicker or static on the screen is gonna TOTALLY ruin my experience and make me chuck my system out the window... <sarcasm intended here> I remember my sisters hairdryer fuckin with my old Sega RF... it comes with the territory man... comes with the territory. *EDIT After re-reading my post I realized I missed the point of my statement. If you plan to mod for hi-res, just use Stella, you'll save some money. If you want a VCS experience get a a light sixer, the diff switches will be easily accessible and its cheaper than a heavy sixer. Edited October 14, 2011 by Torr 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
20ohm20 Posted October 14, 2011 Share Posted October 14, 2011 hooking up your old 78 speeds to a 7.1 surround sound system Actually, I do this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torr Posted October 14, 2011 Share Posted October 14, 2011 That stylus is only readng ONE channel of audio my friend... fork it to a million speakers if you want.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
20ohm20 Posted October 14, 2011 Share Posted October 14, 2011 That stylus is only readng ONE channel of audio my friend... fork it to a million speakers if you want.... Then the guy at Best Buy LIED to me! OH NOES! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torr Posted October 14, 2011 Share Posted October 14, 2011 didn't mean to imply that I thought YOU thought you were getting more sound... just stating a point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pioneer4x4 Posted October 14, 2011 Share Posted October 14, 2011 Why is everyone so hung up on s-video and composite mods... the fucking thing came with a color/b&w switch and I remember hooking mine up with a butter knife many times. You wanna play PS3, fine do it in Hi Res, but outputting a VCS to Hi Res cabling is like hooking up your old 78 speeds to a 7.1 surround sound system.... totally un-fucking-necessary... isn't it that 'old school' feeling your trying to relive... S-video and/or composite is not hi-res, just a cleaner signal. And even that isn't the only reason to do the mod. Many new TVs do not have a Tuner in them that can be used, so that is the best way to get a 2600 connected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littleman jack Posted October 14, 2011 Share Posted October 14, 2011 I agree with the people who suggest a 4 switch woody. They are the most plentiful, and are very reliable. I'd recommend a vader just as much if you can find one. It's very similar, and also quite reliable. The others are good as well, but consider that the jrs tend to be cheap and flimsy(but nice and small), and the heavy 6ers usually cost a bit more(although they have a clearer picture signal, due to the heavy shielding). And 7800s work fine, but some cannot accomodate the width of an Imagic cart without modification. And Imagic makes quite a few of the best 2600 games in my opinion, so you'd have to deface the carts or the 7800 in order to fit them into the cartridge slot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sypran Posted October 14, 2011 Author Share Posted October 14, 2011 Alright Thanks guys! The local shop I used to go to quite often said they had a 7800 in working condition with it's power cord for a nice price. So I'm going to jump for that. Btw to Schizophretar yeah I don't consider myself a collector, I only buy games that look interesting and Id want to play. So I should have said "library" . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimpmaul69 Posted October 14, 2011 Share Posted October 14, 2011 Why is everyone so hung up on s-video and composite mods... the fucking thing came with a color/b&w switch and I remember hooking mine up with a butter knife many times. You wanna play PS3, fine do it in Hi Res, but outputting a VCS to Hi Res cabling is like hooking up your old 78 speeds to a 7.1 surround sound system.... totally un-fucking-necessary... isn't it that 'old school' feeling your trying to relive... God knows when I'm playing Asteroids the odd flicker or static on the screen is gonna TOTALLY ruin my experience and make me chuck my system out the window... <sarcasm intended here> I remember my sisters hairdryer fuckin with my old Sega RF... it comes with the territory man... comes with the territory. *EDIT After re-reading my post I realized I missed the point of my statement. If you plan to mod for hi-res, just use Stella, you'll save some money. If you want a VCS experience get a a light sixer, the diff switches will be easily accessible and its cheaper than a heavy sixer. all i have is lcd tvs. and the one i play atari on has a funny issue with it playing on rf. for example when i play warlords everytime the ball hits a block my screen jumps about 4 inches. really annoying and unplayable. it is a neccessity for some of us who do not have an old school tv. if it wasnt for that i probably wouldnt care cause the picture quality on rf on that tv is pretty good looking. colecovisions do however have better quality as i stated than an actual atari 2600. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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