Lynxpro Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 Uh, if one system has 8 times more RAM than the other, would it not be superior? Notice I didn't say Atari XL? But the game was likely programmed with the lesser models in mind. IMO, the C64 looks slightly better but it doesn't matter since that version is actually playable. It's fine work by Ziggystar, without question, but sadly it's just too much game for the 5200 to handle. PS: I am an avid 5200 fan and defender, but hardware is hardware and there's nothing wrong with that. Where do you get this 8x figure from? The 5200 has 16K RAM standard. The 400/800 could officially be upgraded to 48K back in the day. Ziggy himself said it was a 64K [ROM] cart not 32K. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAC-MAN-RED Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 Here's a bit more info Quoted from a message to me from Ziggystar: "Levels are actually from the NES version. I am picking and choosing the best ones and sort of duplicating them, the aspect ratio is a little different. I will have about 20 unique levels and then inverted ones of those and some treasure rooms for a total of around 48 levels.John" I did the sprite work for the 4player character sprites, but I'm pretty sure the animations for them were cut, and ya, they don't move well, as we already know. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+davidcalgary29 Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 I thought the Mindscape version was the same as the US Gold/Gremlin version. Then again, Mindscape was on disk and apparently US Gold was on tape. How much RAM was in your system? 128K. I bought it in my 130XE days. Someone made a youtube of the XE version, and yes, the US Gold/Gremlin version seems to be the same as the Mindscape release (title screen aside). While the monster animation is jagged and ragged, player motion is smooth. That's what I remembered from my gameplaying days, and if you're not stuck on the Arcade original (or better versions), it's a decent port for the system. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4oB7nYwV-4 I'm a big Gauntlet fan, and would *love* to see an updated version for the A8. Any chance of this, guys?? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynxpro Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 128K. I bought it in my 130XE days. Someone made a youtube of the XE version, and yes, the US Gold/Gremlin version seems to be the same as the Mindscape release (title screen aside). While the monster animation is jagged and ragged, player motion is smooth. That's what I remembered from my gameplaying days, and if you're not stuck on the Arcade original (or better versions), it's a decent port for the system. I'm a big Gauntlet fan, and would *love* to see an updated version for the A8. Any chance of this, guys?? A8/5200 you mean, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goochman Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 Looking at the C64 version it def was programmed with a bit more pace to it. The shooting speed if a bit too slow on the 8bit which doesnt need to be that way. Wonder if the 8bit version could be hacked to have a faster shot/replenishment speed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie_ Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 There is actually a delay to everything that happens on the A8. Movement, shooting... The C64 version is fast and no delay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynxpro Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 (edited) Let's not get confused over which version is being discussed. The official C64 and A8 versions were Mindscape/US Gold/Gremlin and probably was C64 native and then back ported to A8 using lowest common denominator programming with nothing optimized for A8. I'm not claiming authority but Ziggy's thread comments lead me to believe he - or someone else - made an A8 version first which was "256K" but then reduced to "64K" for the 5200 version. I'd love to see video of this A8 version. It might've been 4-player with adapter cables or playing on a RAM upgraded 800. As for the info about the levels of Ziggy's version ported from the NES version, well that makes it "authentic" since Tengen *cough* Atari Games *cough* did that work themselves. If I'm not mistaken, Ed Logg programmed the NES version as well as the arcade. Think that applies to Klax as well. Edited February 10, 2014 by Lynxpro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAC-MAN-RED Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 I've taken the sprites I made for the 5200 Gauntlet version and revised and, I think, improved upon them: illya 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Synthpopalooza Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 I did a couple of Gauntlet title screens, in the Super IRG and Super IRG 2 modes (Antic 4 resolution at 14-25 colors) ... this post: http://atariage.com/forums/topic/188370-doing-pictures-using-super-irg-2-and-other-ice-modes/page-6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg2600 Posted February 11, 2014 Share Posted February 11, 2014 Where do you get this 8x figure from? The 5200 has 16K RAM standard. The 400/800 could officially be upgraded to 48K back in the day. Ziggy himself said it was a 64K [ROM] cart not 32K. Sorry, 4x then. The full game was probably 64K, but the demo was only 32K. We're getting into semantics, the bottom line is that the game is just not very playable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAC-MAN-RED Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 Improved the Blue Valkyrie sprites and her overall animation: 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DracIsBack Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 A8/5200 you mean, right? Man, that game brings back some memories for me, hahaha! I loved A8 Gauntlet as a kid on my 130XE, though having since played the SMS and NES versions, I can definitely see where some of the criticisms of it come from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAC-MAN-RED Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 The Green Elf has been redone: Only one more.. Before then I hope I don't shoot any food, and I've saved enough keys to open doors. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAC-MAN-RED Posted February 16, 2014 Share Posted February 16, 2014 All done now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ziggystar Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 Pacman Red, send me your source files like before and I'll make a new build some day. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAC-MAN-RED Posted April 20, 2016 Share Posted April 20, 2016 Pacman Red, send me your source files like before and I'll make a new build some day. I'll see what I can do. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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