ten-four Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 We should have the French version in a couple of months. Hi Eduardo. Congratulations with the beautiful box, and associated manual. I will happily look forward to this amazing european version next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opcode Posted December 4, 2012 Author Share Posted December 4, 2012 Sigh... unfortunately I couldn't get an agreement with the printer to have everything reprinted, so I am now looking for another printer. As I said, I won't compromise. I found a very large printer here in MA, probably I am going to pay them a visit sometime this week. The problem with the boxes and manuals are the result of a very costly mistake I made, as I neglected requesting hard copy proofs, something that would have allowed us to spot the problems before we had everything printed. I will assume all the losses. Lesson learned though.... Anyways, hopefully it won't delay us more than a couple of weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
65Gamerguy Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 Looks fantastic! Maybe you should save some of the goof ups and sell them in a few years as rarities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+5-11under Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 Looks fantastic! Maybe you should save some of the goof ups and sell them in a few years as rarities. I'll take the box and manual that have the mistakes, rather than the updated version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opcode Posted December 4, 2012 Author Share Posted December 4, 2012 Problem is, I ended with nothing, except for the samples. I paid $1,000 in advance, then we couldn't get an agreement on reprinting, so I refuse to pay the balance. Very long story, and a sad one too... But again, I will take full responsibility for the loss... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoTonah Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 Are you sure this isn't something that couldn't be fixed with stickers? I see stickers on boxes all the time. Here in Canada most goods need to have both French and English on them, so manufacturers just use stickers instead of re-doing the whole box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+cmart604 Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 Sorry to hear you've had problems with the printing company Eduardo but WOW is that box and manual fantastic looking! :thumbsup: :love: Congrats on what is turning out to be an absolutely first class release that you should be very proud of. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youki Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 - (Bad) French SCART CV has a different pinout, not compatible with current SGM. Will need a special version, something for next year Yeah!... i just win a bet i did on a french forum! ... but it is a sad news . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opcode Posted December 4, 2012 Author Share Posted December 4, 2012 Do we have any lawyers here that can give me a few advises on a matter involving legal actions against a printing company and how I can protect myself from them? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retroillucid Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 Do we have any lawyers here that can give me a few advises on a matter involving legal actions against a printing company and how I can protect myself from them? Thanks! Hardhat (Dale Wick) not sure, but I think Cebbus Capuccini is a lawyer too.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opcode Posted December 5, 2012 Author Share Posted December 5, 2012 Cases have shipped. Should have them by Friday. Eduardo 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the.golden.ax Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 RickHarrisMaine is an AA member lawyer IIRC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoctorTom Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 I will tell you that hiring the lawyers and going through the process may very well cost you more than you owe the printing company. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opcode Posted December 9, 2012 Author Share Posted December 9, 2012 (edited) So that you guys know, I couldn't reach an agreement with the printer to have the box reprinted, despite my best efforts. So I will be moving to another printer. I will have a meeting with them next week to have the whole process started. The good news for you guys is that since I am already financially screwed, I have decided to pay to have the modifications to the game catalog and hope to print everything with this new printer. The bad news is that the SGM has now been officially delayed until January 2013. Yes, it is very disappointing news, and believe me, it pains me that I couldn't make it to the console's 30th anniversary. On the other hand I wanted to get it 100% right. You guys saw the box. It looked great, but the barcode was missing, so it isn't perfect. I lost 1,000 bucks on that, but I don't care, I want the damn thing perfect. Hope you guys understand. Hopefully we can have the module by mid January or something. [Edit]: BTW, I am on negotiations with a new designer to work on the club magazine. Previous designer wasn't working, after months nothing was coming out from that, so I decided to look for someone else. Keeping my fingers crossed that it is going to work this time around. Edited December 9, 2012 by opcode 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+grips03 Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 thanks for the update on the printing. How is the beta going in general? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phattyboombatty Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 Kickstarter campaign for Eduardo's box issues anyone? Or Paypal donation efforts from all backers? If we all come together, it might only be $3-$4 per person. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixelboy Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 So that you guys know, I couldn't reach an agreement with the printer to have the box reprinted, despite my best efforts. So I will be moving to another printer. I will have a meeting with them next week to have the whole process started. The good news for you guys is that since I am already financially screwed, I have decided to pay to have the modifications to the game catalog and hope to print everything with this new printer. The bad news is that the SGM has now been officially delayed until January 2013. Yes, it is very disappointing news, and believe me, it pains me that I couldn't make it to the console's 30th anniversary. On the other hand I wanted to get it 100% right. You guys saw the box. It looked great, but the barcode was missing, so it isn't perfect. I lost 1,000 bucks on that, but I don't care, I want the damn thing perfect. Hope you guys understand. Hopefully we can have the module by mid January or something. [Edit]: BTW, I am on negotiations with a new designer to work on the club magazine. Previous designer wasn't working, after months nothing was coming out from that, so I decided to look for someone else. Keeping my fingers crossed that it is going to work this time around. Thanks for the delay confirmation, Eduardo. At least people won't need to keep their fingers crossed. I should point out that this changes nothing where my upcoming Team Pixelboy games are concerned: All 8 games will be released on Christmas, as initially planned. So keep in mind that Dragon's Lair, Zaxxon Super Game, King's Valley and Thexder will make sexy paperweights until the SGM is released. If you have an ADAM computer, then you'll be able to play Dragon's Lair and Zaxxon Super Game without the SGM plugged into the ADAM memory console. (King's Valley and Thexder require the SGM on both the regular CV console and the ADAM). 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opcode Posted December 9, 2012 Author Share Posted December 9, 2012 thanks for the update on the printing. How is the beta going in general? Beta for the NTSC version is done. No glitches found with the latest rev, rev E. In fact it went into manufacturing last week, we should have the assembled boards in a couple of weeks I guess. We are now working on the PAL version (testing that). Cases had a small delay during transportation, according to Fedex tracking I should get the 260 cases tomorrow. Foam is all set, waiting for prototype. Looks nice from pictures. Our fellow AA member Ben helped me with that. So yeah, the only missing piece of the puzzle now is the printed stuff, box, manual, catalog and nameplate, all delayed because of the problem with the original printer. Eduardo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennybingo Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 Kickstarter campaign for Eduardo's box issues anyone? Or Paypal donation efforts from all backers? If we all come together, it might only be $3-$4 per person. I am up for it! I agree that Eduardo shouldn't have to eat that $1000 all by himself. Even we were to raise half of that, it would still help offset his troubles. Where do we begin? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phattyboombatty Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 We begin with a list of names. Those who can truly commit to this. I don't want to start the KS or PP process unless we have 75% or so, of interested parties. But we can't make a nice editable list here. Only in a Marketplace thread or we start a group PM. Otherwise it'll be a messy thread. I guess too, we could ask Albert if we could make an editable thread here in Opcode Games. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+cmart604 Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 I'd throw $20 towards that in a heartbeat for all Eduardo's done for the CV community. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennybingo Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 How about we start another thread, so as not to muddy this one? To make things easier, we could just paypal Eduardo directly. It would reduce fees and such, and it is all going to him in the end anyhow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opcode Posted December 9, 2012 Author Share Posted December 9, 2012 Guys, thanks or the generous offer but no need to send me extra money. I am sure I can make my money back on future runs of the SGM. In fact my total deficit for the first run is going to be far more than $1,000, as I underestimated printing, which was originally going to happen in China, by some $3,000, so I would say my total deficit is going to be something like $4,000. That means 250 orders total to break even instead of just 200. Eduardo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixelboy Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 Guys, thanks or the generous offer but no need to send me extra money. I am sure I can make my money back on future runs of the SGM. In fact my total deficit for the first run is going to be far more than $1,000, as I underestimated printing, which was originally going to happen in China, by some $3,000, so I would say my total deficit is going to be something like $4,000. That means 250 orders total to break even instead of just 200. Eduardo A-aah! So that means you'll have to do another run of SGMs sometime next year! Hopefully you can get enough extra pre-orders to justify another run. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+grips03 Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Beta for the NTSC version is done. No glitches found with the latest rev, rev E. In fact it went into manufacturing last week, we should have the assembled boards in a couple of weeks I guess. We are now working on the PAL version (testing that). Cases had a small delay during transportation, according to Fedex tracking I should get the 260 cases tomorrow. Foam is all set, waiting for prototype. Looks nice from pictures. Our fellow AA member Ben helped me with that. So yeah, the only missing piece of the puzzle now is the printed stuff, box, manual, catalog and nameplate, all delayed because of the problem with the original printer. Eduardo Awesome!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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