scalpel Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 Me too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectorGamer Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 Wow. Hope you folks figured out not to give money to someone to program a game. Never made sense to me why someone should be paid ahead of time to program. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+JasonlikesINTV Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 wow...wtf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Loguidice Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 1 hour ago, scalpel said: Me too I don't think we're getting it. I presume he's AWOL for good at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectorGamer Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, Bill Loguidice said: I don't think we're getting it. I presume he's AWOL for good at this point. So how much is that in US $ that he made off with? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy62 Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 (edited) He is long gone,along with a couple guys here that defended his actions up to their last posts. Thankfully,on the last part meaning the couples guys that are gone. The lack of refunds is of course inexcusable. Edited December 12, 2019 by wolfy62 Added content. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaxivision Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 Me too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucifershalo Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 I am not on his side (far from it) but I have to say that I was refunded (long time ago) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+intellivotion Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 all this popcorn gives me indigestion and I'm sorry for those who didn't get refunded. That's all I have to say about this matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+SoulBuster Posted December 13, 2019 Share Posted December 13, 2019 Losing $80 is really insignificant to me, it is just the point of the matter. It does not make me who I am. On the other hand, him not paying shows who he really is. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scalpel Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 Where is the thief ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miker Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 Ah, good ol' @GroovyBee. Why I'm not surprised? ? So, where's the game? ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tschak909 Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 This. Is. Why. I. Advocate. For. Game. Source. Code. To. Be. Public. At. All. Phases. Including. Development. Why? Because of: * ADHD * Boredom * Life changing events * Death * Leaving the scene Every piece of code that is public is something that someone else can take and use. Every piece of code left hidden is forever lost to time. -Thom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlsson Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 6 hours ago, tschak909 said: Every piece of code that is public is something that someone else can take and use. Unfortunately the Intellivision scene had a very bad incident of exactly that the other year. As long as someone in the end is trying to at least recoup their costs - not really making money - only selected snippets of code will be openly published, in particular after we learned there are less noble participants in this community. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwi Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 11 hours ago, tschak909 said: Every piece of code that is public is something that someone else can take and use. Only if someone has a question about something, I usually pull up my already made code and show them. Or make a tutorial on something and make a thread. Not the entire game source code especially work in progres. I didn't post my source code for my Intybasic contest because it is incomplete and I wanted to put the game on cartridge when it is finished. Beside, Rocketeer is designed to work with Groovybee's Bee3 cartridge boards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tschak909 Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 sigh. always an excuse, always a rationalization. Someday you guys will see what I'm talking about. -Thom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlsson Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 I suppose once your finished program is published, and perhaps with a grace period to allow it to exist on the market just like a patent, most of the sources could be released for preservation and others to learn from it. Alternatively you could keep your sources in a closed cloud storage that has a named beneficiary and in case you pass away or don't touch the project for a given period of time, the cloud is opened for the beneficiary to handle it according to your "will", whether that is direct inheritage or sharing with everyone. Even if you don't steal others' work without asking for permission or ignore giving credit to whom wrote 90% of your program, be certain others will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tschak909 Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 (edited) and if they do? what? Are your egos THAT fragile? Wow, that's...pathetic. I publish all of my work publically, and I want people to steal it. Steal is the wrong word, really. I do not care about credit, because, guess what? I didn't invent the damned thing whole cloth. -Thom Edited April 9, 2020 by tschak909 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+nanochess Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 2 hours ago, Kiwi said: Only if someone has a question about something, I usually pull up my already made code and show them. Or make a tutorial on something and make a thread. Not the entire game source code especially work in progres. I didn't post my source code for my Intybasic contest because it is incomplete and I wanted to put the game on cartridge when it is finished. Beside, Rocketeer is designed to work with Groovybee's Bee3 cartridge boards. 39 minutes ago, carlsson said: I suppose once your finished program is published, and perhaps with a grace period to allow it to exist on the market just like a patent, most of the sources could be released for preservation and others to learn from it. Alternatively you could keep your sources in a closed cloud storage that has a named beneficiary and in case you pass away or don't touch the project for a given period of time, the cloud is opened for the beneficiary to handle it according to your "will", whether that is direct inheritage or sharing with everyone. Even if you don't steal others' work without asking for permission or ignore giving credit to whom wrote 90% of your program, be certain others will. tschak909 is a drama queen, no answer satisfies him. Don't lose your time replying to him. Besides he always generalizes and uses this colorful language. 53 minutes ago, tschak909 said: sigh. always an excuse, always a rationalization. 18 minutes ago, tschak909 said: and if they do? what? Are your egos THAT fragile? Wow, that's...pathetic. As every regular Intellivision forum visitor knows (and obviously you aren't one), someone took Artrag's Gyruss primitive source code, compiled and published it with almost no changes as a complete game, and still shamelessly sells copies in a FB page. So please take your pathetic ass out of there and inform yourself better the next time. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tschak909 Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 (edited) Such poisonous people. I am aware of what has happened in various communities here on AtariAge. My point still stands, because we are such a small macrocommunity. It speaks more to the stroking of egos that stuff gets put close to the chest, than any real loss of credit or profit. Oscar, you call me a drama queen because I give an empassioned response? Fine. My point still stands. -Thom Edited April 9, 2020 by tschak909 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+cmadruga Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 Could you define "small macrocommunity"? Macro means literally "large" in greek, so I'm confused. Is it large or small? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+intellivotion Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 11 minutes ago, cmadruga said: Could you define "small macrocommunity"? Macro means literally "large" in greek, so I'm confused. Is it large or small? simple, it's the opposite of "large microcommunity" 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+cmadruga Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 7 minutes ago, intellivotion said: simple, it's the opposite of "large microcommunity" Ahhhhhhh... clear as mud 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tschak909 Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 Referring to the fact that even with all of the individual sub-communities in AtariAge, the average # of people actually participating is very small. -Thom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swami Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 3 hours ago, nanochess said: As every regular Intellivision forum visitor knows (and obviously you aren't one), someone took Artrag's Gyruss primitive source code, compiled and published it with almost no changes as a complete game, and still shamelessly sells copies in a FB page. As well as selling Ghostbusters and buggy Quo Vadis. He is banned from Atariage, but still sells on FB and people fall all over themselves to keep them in business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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