+sm3 Posted June 12, 2013 Share Posted June 12, 2013 Thanks for the update! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candle Posted June 22, 2013 Author Share Posted June 22, 2013 all SMT components of orginally ordered boards (32 boards) are assembled as they were here i'm expecting to start shipping them out in 2-3 weeks from now sorry it takes that long - i belive i'm behind the schelude, but the truth is, i've received CPLD chips (last missing components) last week although they were ordered in the same time as all the rest also, smt placement and soldering takes me too much of my time, so i'm considering massive upgrade to my workshop thing with things like that is they cost alot, even the simpliest pick and place machine that would be of any use is over $6000 shipped, and you need to add 23% of tax on top of that reflow oven and stencils for solder paste are almost for free compared to that subcontractors aren't an option with volumes i do - it is simply too expensive in such small scale so it comes down to either getting it done on my machines (yet to buy) or to stop doing any projects for general public at all Sebastian 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+tf_hh Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 Hi Sebastian! I can only speak for me, but I´m sure that nobody here has ANY doubt that you are delivering the ordered goods. And of course the most people should know the time and energy you´ve to put in such private projects without getting rich. And better slow than nothing (but for me this is not slow... !). Regards, Juergen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+sm3 Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 I can't speak for others obviously, but I'm in no rush either. I appreciate all the work you've put into this endeavor! Thanks again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ransom Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 Sounds like you're really at a place where the volume is too much for one person, but not enough to easily justify buying the machinery needed to bring it back down to a one-man job. Perhaps a kickstarter or something similar is in order? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candle Posted June 22, 2013 Author Share Posted June 22, 2013 can't do, doesn't work in poland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+skr Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 The goal of Kickstarter is not to buy stuff you can´t afford on your own, so this wouldn´t be a serious option. As there are some people building hardware for the Atari computers, wouldn´t they profit from such equipment too? So what about trying to get some people together and share such a machine? (I don´t have any idea how portable it is, maybe sharing is not possible because of distances). If you get a "hardware team" together, it might be easier to get some fundings. Try to enter something to the ABBUC hardware contest. If you win, you have some hundreds Euro as a starter. Just some ideas. I hope you´ll be able to produce great hardware forever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candle Posted June 23, 2013 Author Share Posted June 23, 2013 simpliest usable (benchtop) i found weights 65kg but most common form factor is large cabinet on stabilised platform this is how portable these systems are programming it is not trivial also eventually i'll buy it, it's a matter of time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atari8warez Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 all SMT components of orginally ordered boards (32 boards) are assembled as they were here i'm expecting to start shipping them out in 2-3 weeks from now sorry it takes that long - i belive i'm behind the schelude, but the truth is, i've received CPLD chips (last missing components) last week although they were ordered in the same time as all the rest also, smt placement and soldering takes me too much of my time, so i'm considering massive upgrade to my workshop thing with things like that is they cost alot, even the simpliest pick and place machine that would be of any use is over $6000 shipped, and you need to add 23% of tax on top of that reflow oven and stencils for solder paste are almost for free compared to that subcontractors aren't an option with volumes i do - it is simply too expensive in such small scale so it comes down to either getting it done on my machines (yet to buy) or to stop doing any projects for general public at all Sebastian You can do it in smaller batches like 10 at a time, once you ship those you can do another 10 etc. This way buyers won't have to wait for too long, or pay the $6000... ouch ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candle Posted June 23, 2013 Author Share Posted June 23, 2013 no, I can't Ray reason is simple - if you have MOQ of 90 chips, $10 each, and another MOQ on boards things aren't that easy a budget of single project like this one for example is something around $2500 for 40 boards, and this is only for parts besides, we've been through this before, no need to repeat ourselves besides, it would only make things slower the way i'm doing it right now minimises assembly time required next step is to buy solder paste dispenser and reflow oven, and then, to increase efficiency even more - some kind of pick and place machine and cheapest usable is $4980 plus another $1000 for shipping Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atari8warez Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 Sorry, I must have missed or forgotten that we have been through this before, was just a suggestion but apparently doesn't work for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Firedawg Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 no, I can't Ray reason is simple - if you have MOQ of 90 chips, $10 each, and another MOQ on boards things aren't that easy a budget of single project like this one for example is something around $2500 for 40 boards, and this is only for parts besides, we've been through this before, no need to repeat ourselves besides, it would only make things slower the way i'm doing it right now minimises assembly time required next step is to buy solder paste dispenser and reflow oven, and then, to increase efficiency even more - some kind of pick and place machine and cheapest usable is $4980 plus another $1000 for shipping Your are right Candle, the cost to obtain the machinery to increase production, especially electronics, is very costly. I'm currently in the process of building my own CNC (Computer Numerical Control) machine, and it is almost complete. My cost will be around $900USD when the machine is completed. I do a lot of wood working, but I can see this machine very capable of handing some electronic PCB stuff, to include applying paste and component placements. It will be interesting to look into this and see what would be required. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candle Posted June 23, 2013 Author Share Posted June 23, 2013 i've build some cnc machines back in the days, but somehow they always were unfinnished, still have them, and maybe i'll get to them back, but simple things that are missing held these project back somehow it is hard to get anyone with mill or a router to machine custom parts needed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candle Posted July 15, 2013 Author Share Posted July 15, 2013 ok, boards are 100% assembled and ready for testing if there any more takers, there is still few more Sebastian 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+SoulBuster Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 Great news Candle, looking forward to getting it in the mail! Thanks for the update! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fandenivoldsk Posted July 15, 2013 Share Posted July 15, 2013 ok, boards are 100% assembled and ready for testing if there any more takers, there is still few more Sebastian I would like to buy one! :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodLightning Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 Payment sent for one board and glad I got in on the tail end of this second run. I dug my original Atari 800 out of storage yesterday and it powered right up after a 10 year hibernation! I somehow missed the entire development stage and first read about Incognito in Magic Knight's 'Desert Island Atari' thread. Some people wanted their Incognito equipped 800 to pass the time until rescue. Having the complete Atari 400/800/XL/XE library in one package makes perfect sense. I did get a transaction pending message with up to a 72 hour delay for Paypal to review payment. I am guessing this is because I have not done an international transaction of any kind in over two years. Has anyone else in the USA or elsewhere had their transaction put on hold? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorsten Günther Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 I dug my original Atari 800 out of storage yesterday and it powered right up after a 10 year hibernation! Even if it did not, it would most likely be the fault of one of those 4700 μF capacitors on the internal voltage regulation board - these are easy to replace even for someone as clumsy at soldering as me - becuase they are huge! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjlazer Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 Will you be sending mine? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtariGeezer Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 Will you be sending mine? Has the first one been returned to Candle yet? (by the postal service or other?) What's the latest news on tracking? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candle Posted August 1, 2013 Author Share Posted August 1, 2013 tj: yes jay: no, it has not, i have to assume it was lost or got stolen, that never happend before Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjlazer Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 Thanks, I was hoping it would of shown up by now! It's a shame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elementCXV Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Have the boards shipped yet? If so when should I expect to receive them in California? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtariGeezer Posted August 14, 2013 Share Posted August 14, 2013 Have the boards shipped yet? If so when should I expect to receive them in California? Shipments from Candle only took 8 - 12 work days to get to San Diego Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bandit Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 Have the boards shipped yet? If so when should I expect to receive them in California? It took about 12 days to get to oregon, east coast was a day or so sooner, when he ship's he will email you a tracking number and then you will know. I do not think he has shipped yet, he is a busy man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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