jd_1138 Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 (edited) It's going to have built in Kinect, 8 gigs of RAM (16 times jump in RAM over 360), an AMD x64 CPU/GPU, and a Blu-ray player. It will be easier for developers to develop for, esp. PC game developers. It should help out both the PC and the Xbox platforms in terms of ensuring quality games on both platforms. $499 but $299 if you agree to a 2 year $10/month Xbox Gold membership. I skipped the 360, but I think I will buy a 720 since it has a Blu-ray player, and I like the new AMD CPU/GPU setup. I wonder if Microsoft will skip the kinda silly "X" shape of previous Xboxes? Just make it a nice box. "Box" is part of the name, too. Edited April 27, 2013 by Trekker_1138 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennybingo Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 All the rumors are still swirling about what the new Xbox will have under the hood, but the truth is, no one really is sure yet. No one even knows the name for certain. What I do know is that the launch 360 had many years of problems with the RROD, so I will wait to buy this one post-launch for sure. Nothing against Xbox...I have simply learned from experience that new hardware = lots of bugs and issues more often than not. I would wait just the same on a PS4. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moycon Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 They will be making official announcements 5/21, Trekker. There is an ongoing thread about the new Xbox here.... http://atariage.com/forums/topic/211612-next-gen-xbox-revealed-may-21/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Phruby Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 Well the code name is Durango for the new xbox. It won't be backwards compatible with the 360 but there will be a cheaper new model 360 released at the same time. The new machine will require a network connection to be always on and will have a blu-ray player. I hear the games will be compatible with PCs so the same game will work in both. Skype will be built in. I also understand there will be a free version of Visual Studio Express for developing indie games for the new XBox. Windows 8 will be its core OS so the new machine sounds like a $500 PC with a high powered GPU and Kinect 2.0. There is also suppose to be a change to the XBox live family subscription. The five user license will be the same as the 1 user yearly license. $60 instead of $99. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onlysublime Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 yeah, not much reason to have multiple threads. and all you listed are rumors. some more likely than others. the most nebulous rumors have to do with pricing and that's still going to changed and modified to meet the competition, the needs of the retailer, and the needs of the parent company. I think the reliability of these consoles will be much more reliable. Last gen, both the 360 and PS3 went the Pentium 4-style route and went with long deep pipelines for their processors. think of it as a freeway with few exits. that let's you really ramp up the speed. but if you miss the exit you need, you seriously have to backtrack. so you compensate by going even faster. In order to prevent long stalls, you compensate by massively boosting the clockrate. but by boosting the clockrate, you seriously boost the power requirement and heat generated. which was the devil of the 360 and PS3. the CPU in the PS4 and next Xbox will be based on the AMD Jaguar, the next-gen chip that will replace the AMD Bobcat. the Jaguar is aimed at the mobile market, especially next-gen tablets. a lot of performance for very little power and heat is what AMD is promising. it's why a lot of PC people are mocking it because it's a glorified Atom CPU but with a much much better GPU attached. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cimerians Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 I am the official Atariage PC troll Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Video Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 It'll depend. i don't like a lot of what I hear about it, but it's early enough that I"m sure that it's mostly speculative bullshit. I'll have to wait and see, but to be honest, most of what I want a console for, is no longer applicable (such as complete games, not having to download patches, lack of drm, good controllers, etc, etc) I'll be much more likely to go PC this generation. But if they can do it right, I'd still get one, but we'll just have to wait and see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Random Terrain Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 8 gigs of RAM (16 times jump in RAM over 360) It doesn't matter how much RAM was in the Xbox 360. The computer I got in 2011 has 16 gigabytes of RAM. If they want this new console to kick ass for 5 or more years, they better put in more than 8 gigabytes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karyyk Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 I can't really say I'm all that excited. Even if it's $299 (which it won't be), I see no reason to shell out that kind of money until Microsoft works out the hardware kinks. I just hope MS doesn't officially and immediately dump development on the 360 like they did with the original XBOX. The installed base is probably too much to ignore this go-round, but we'll see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyper_Eye Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 (edited) It doesn't matter how much RAM was in the Xbox 360. The computer I got in 2011 has 16 gigabytes of RAM. If they want this new console to kick ass for 5 or more years, they better put in more than 8 gigabytes. The computer you bought in 2011 has enough RAM to run an operating system as well as some open applications including a browser with a bunch of tabs and a game and there's still room to run another operating system or two in virtual machines without ever touching swap space. We are talking about a game console. The requirements are different. As to the original question... I'm not ready to buy into a new console generation. I had the 360 on day 1 and I never regretted it. Right now I have a backlog that seems insurmountable. I think getting a new console would stress me out. I still find myself impressed playing games on my current consoles. Of course if someone wanted to give me one I would not turn it down. Edited May 14, 2013 by Hyper_Eye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andromeda Stardust Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 I'm sticking with Wii-U and Ouya. Can't say I approve of the idea of always requiring Internet. What about the mountain men? Will the console instantly become a piece of useless tech junk when the servers are eventually shut down in the future? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Gemintronic Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 I'm with stardust4ever on this one. I'm also with R.T. My PC has similar specs to those rumored and it doesn't dazzle me enough to spend money on it again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Random Terrain Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 The computer you bought in 2011 has enough RAM to run an operating system as well as some open applications including a browser with a bunch of tabs and a game and there's still room to run another operating system or two in virtual machines without ever touching swap space. We are talking about a game console. The requirements are different. The existing Xbox 360 isn't just a game console. Microsoft wants it to be a video game machine, a movie player, a music player, and anything else they can wedge in there. You know they'll want to expand on that with the next console and add more things to the list. Try the new Xbox All-In-One Cloud Tablet with Web browser and Windows 8 integration! Everything you need in one place! Take your Xbox with you wherever you go! With the touchscreen interface, you can finally say goodbye to clunky controllers! Play games, watch movies, play music, search for porn, or do your taxes. You can do it all with the Xbox All-In-One Cloud Tablet! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyper_Eye Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 Given all of that none of it warrants 16GB of memory even with some of them being done in parallel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Random Terrain Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 Given all of that none of it warrants 16GB of memory even with some of them being done in parallel. I forgot to mention that it can make toast and boil eggs. It's also a 3D printer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iswitt Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 (edited) For those of you still worried about the "always-on" rumor, maybe this will help put that to rest. Of course, we won't know for 100% certainty until the reveal, but this may assuage your fears. http://gamepolitics....et#.UZItKrXqngU Edited May 14, 2013 by iswitt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reaperman Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 (edited) Maybe microsoft will remember how to get their controllers to center right, and keep the thing from overheating to failure this time. I might just buy one--in 4-5 years when everybody claims that they've worked the kinks out...and I'll probably find out that they were wrong. Seriously, how damn hard is it to center a controller? I gave them 2 chances at this... Edited May 14, 2013 by Reaperman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iswitt Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 Seriously, how damn hard is it to center a controller? I gave them 2 chances at this... Maybe I'm missing something. What's wrong with the controllers? I've never had any issues with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reaperman Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 (edited) Maybe I'm missing something. What's wrong with the controllers? I've never had any issues with them. Maybe I'm just unlucky, or my standards are too high. On both of mine, the left stick doesn't quite center. My first one which came with my 'slim 4gb arcade' frequently slides gently upwards when released (which I didn't notice at first since I mostly play driving games), the second one (which was a new-old-stock wireless pc setup) pulls slightly to the right. On PC, I can calibrate much (not all) of it out, and/or increase deadzone in game settings that support it, but on the 360 itself, it is *far* more annoying. Never really had an issue with stick centering on a controller before--5200 aside... It's centering mechanism doesn't seem to provide enough force. It's not like these are old controllers, either. Both have less than 100 hrs on them, and did this fresh from the pack. Edited May 14, 2013 by Reaperman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+FujiSkunk Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 I'm meh about the new console, but then I was meh when the 360 first came out. If I see a game that persuades me to buy the new hardware, I will. For the 360 that game was Rock Band. Of course I'm still playing Rock Band 3 and I'm still smarting over new music DLC coming to end, so getting me interested in the next generation is a tall order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moycon Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 I'll be checking out the latest Xbox for sure. My 360 easily got the most use out of the Wii, PS3, 360 gen. One week from today as a matter of fact! MS has already stated the main unit won't require an always on internet connection to play games, so I'm not worried about that anymore. Also I think the 360 has the best controller of any console ever made. I've got around a dozen controllers, with the exception of one about 3 years ago, they all center fine. On that one, it was a simple as taking the controller apart and cleaning the crud out of the controller so the one stick, wouldn't stick, any more. I personally hope they don't change the controller at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bennybingo Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 I'm meh about the new console, but then I was meh when the 360 first came out. If I see a game that persuades me to buy the new hardware, I will. Me too on this one...they sold me on the last console with Left 4 Dead, and kept me with an amazing library. I can only hope there will be a sequel on the next gen for the following titles: L4D; Skyrim; Fallout; Borderlands; Battlefield Dare to dream! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Gemintronic Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 For those of you still worried about the "always-on" rumor, maybe this will help put that to rest. Of course, we won't know for 100% certainty until the reveal, but this may assuage your fears. http://gamepolitics....et#.UZItKrXqngU They'll eventually enforce always on. It's not popular or needed now so of course they'll wait. Always on just doesn't excite me. The Simms kind of demonstrated how NOT to do it. I haven't seen a company do it right yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+HatNJ Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 So the 720 will just be a PC in a fancy box? PASS can already use what ever controller I want on my PC with display hooked up via HDMI to my big screen TV and play almost the same games and more I am happy with my Wii PS3 and other consoles I got and as others have in common a backlog of games to play will save the hundreds of dollars and pass on the next gen for now put the money towards a bigger order in the AA store 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cimerians Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 They need to re-do this GOLD account business but why should they? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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