Master Phruby Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 Apple doesn't have a console. LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cimerians Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 It's best not to pay attention to the brain dead. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cimerians Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 Apple by the way has just approved standard controller support for IOS7. Valve is busy with linux and a Steam Box. Look out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Phruby Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 I wonder what the reaction would be if Apple really did turn the Apple TV into a real console? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Algus Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 Glancing over the comments on those blog posts, Xbots all seem utterly convinced that we will get Steam-like pricing if the console publishers convert to all digital. Because apparently Steam was to expensive in the "good old days" That's an awful lot of confidence to have in a "may happen" Also, apparently all games are stuck at $59.99 right now. Funny, I remember paying $20 new for Mass Effect 3 because I didn't have to rush out and buy it on day one. I also remember not being able to buy it for $20 on Steam Day One. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toptenmaterial Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 Microsoft is screwed either way. Why doesn't Apple have these problems? I have wondered that, and I have somewhat of an expanation. First off, mobile games are cheap, and many of them are free. DLC for them is cheap and free. Secondly, it's easy for an iOS user to transfer data to another iOS device with minimum BS. If the apps cost $60, and it took an hour to sign in or transfer them to another device, there would be a problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toptenmaterial Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 (edited) I wonder what the reaction would be if Apple really did turn the Apple TV into a real console? They won't. They have mobile on lock with zero competition from the consoles, computers or Android/TV devices. Edited June 21, 2013 by toptenmaterial Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Algus Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 It really is all about convenience and price. If Microsoft had come out and announced that all Xbone games were going to retail at $39.99 or less, I think a lot of people would have forgotten their anger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 The damage is already done, getting a PS4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Impaler_26 Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 Now we know the real reason why MS changed their mind: *Sony* forced Microsoft’s hand, not the internet whining. http://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2013/06/19/cliffy-b-on-xbox-one-losing-drm-restrictions-more-studios-will-close-microtransactions-will-skyrocket/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevEng Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 I liked this choice quote from the article... I want *developers* who worked their asses off to see money on every copy of their game that is sold instead of Gamestop. Fuck me, right? Indeed. Fuck you and your wish to side-step the first sale doctrine. I hope Cliff also sends a large potion of profits for any house or car resale he's done back to the original manufacturers who worked their asses off producing the goods, but I kinda doubt it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cimerians Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 Sterling cracks me up but it's true: http://www.destructoid.com/an-industry-that-needs-xbox-one-drm-is-a-failed-industry-256643.phtml 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Phruby Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Algus Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 Sterling cracks me up but it's true: http://www.destructo...ry-256643.phtml Ugh, that is a really good article even if it deals with some unpleasant facts about the game industry. Yes, I think I'd rather let the old guard and even all these amazing IPs that I love playing each iteration of, die then let some of this anti-consumer garbage take hold. Truth is, there will always be other video games to play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesD Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 Sterling cracks me up but it's true: http://www.destructo...ry-256643.phtml I really like this part: "More studios WILL close and you’ll see more PC and mobile games," warned Bleszinski, preparing us from the grim darkness of the 21st Century. "... Brace yourselves. More tacked on multiplayer and DLC are coming. You’re also about to see available microtransactions skyrocket. HATS FOR EVERYONE." As if we won't see more of that anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cimerians Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 (edited) I really like this part: As if we won't see more of that anyway. I know. The thing that really baffles me is that he thinks the Xbox One is the future of gaming. As if the Playstation and Nintendo (or other platforms) don't exist. Sad that they are STILL trying to justify themselves and now and is trying to use some fear tactic to change someones mind into thinking games will be worse and "cost more". They will use any excuse necessary. Almost child like. All this from a man who's company is pretty much owned by Microsoft. Which disqualifies his opinions instantly. Just keep talking Cliff and more people will shy away from your Xbox One console. If I was him and it was my company, I wouldn't say a thing. Edited June 21, 2013 by cimerians 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesD Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 I know. The thing that really baffles me is that he thinks the Xbox One is the future of gaming. As if the Playstation and Nintendo (or other platforms) don't exist. Sad that they are STILL trying to justify themselves and now and is trying to use some fear tactic to change someones mind into thinking games will be worse and "cost more". They will use any excuse necessary. Almost child like. All this from a man who's company is pretty much owned by Microsoft. Which disqualifies his opinions instantly. Just keep talking Cliff and more people will shy away from your Xbox One console. If I was him and it was my company, I wouldn't say a thing. The other dumb thing is that the guy implies/claims that developers will switch to PC's and not develop for consoles without this DRM crap, but totally ignores the fact that having it will drive gamers to PC's for gaming, which will in turn force developers to support PC's and not consoles. Does this guy know what a self fulfilling prophesy is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Algus Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 Hell at $500, I might as well buy a PC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesD Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 The CNN article: http://www.cnn.com/2013/06/19/tech/gaming-gadgets/xbox-drm/#tech?hpt=tech_zite1_featured Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cimerians Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 Well I change my mind. I think they hit a certain number of units sold and they flick the switch back on. It won't be massive where everyone is concerned. They may pick those who go the DRM route get free games or some other bonus for doing it. Their job right now is to get as many people to buy an XBOX One in order to plan out what to do later. Eventually the goal will be to convert everyone over time. Either by carrots on stick or other deals or simply saying you can't play online anymore if you don't do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesD Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 Hell at $500, I might as well buy a PC. Well, if it flops out of the gate you can probably expect a price drop in a few months. Unless Microsoft wants to give SONY a huge lead anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesD Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 Well I change my mind. I think they hit a certain number of units sold and they flick the switch back on. It won't be massive where everyone is concerned. They may pick those who go the DRM route get free games or some other bonus for doing it. Their job right now is to get as many people to buy an XBOX One in order to plan out what to do later. Eventually the goal will be to convert everyone over time. Either by carrots on stick or other deals or simply saying you can't play online anymore if you don't do it. I tend to agree. I think games will be available both ways and over time it will shift to DRM hell... which was an opt in feature anyway. As far as I can tell nothing has changed except the time table. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godslabrat Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 (edited) We keep being told stuff like this is what we need to do to save the industry. That's crap. The video game industry will still be there, no matter what publishers suffer as a result. We may lose Microsoft or Sony or Nintendo, and certainly it doesn't look good for the likes of Activision or Bungie. Sit down and take a breath, we may have to do without EA. But video games will still be made by *someone* and if they're good, we'll buy them. Xbox One wasn't about saving the industry, it was about saving Xbox One. What you're hearing is a bunch of whining by Microsoft that consumers won't just hand them the keys to the market, and a golden ticket to free profits for life. Me personally, I think Nintendo's tendency of being out-of-touch has worked to their benefit this time. I think I'm gonna save up for a Wii-U. Edited June 21, 2013 by godslabrat 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Algus Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 I have not regretted buying the Wii-U I have, however, regretted buying a 3DS as it now consumes all my gaming and I haven't even powered on the Wii U in a couple weeks. Once again, Nintendo shows me the way. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaztee Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 (edited) They left the previous generation with the number one console in the biz and they proceeded to come in last due to their arrogance. Apparently MS wanted to know how that feels. Not anymore! that distinction now belongs to the 360! PS3 passed the 360 total a couple of months ago. http://www.vgchartz.com/ Which makes MS arrogance throughout this debacle even more incredible! Edited June 21, 2013 by Gaztee 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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