foft Posted January 10, 2015 Author Share Posted January 10, 2015 The build with this fix will be available in about 3-4 hours - I run this overnight now (manually). Since there are so many platforms it takes a while. I'm also including the latest SOCkit build in the autobuild area. This isn't really ready for prime time yet (no sdram, no usb via the usb-otg) though... So don't expect to do more than see the READY screen. There is a SOCKIT.elf (standard firmware) binary and a type binary (to type via ssh!) included so stuff does run - but there are some timing issues on the disk emulation. In terms of help. Any help appreciated! Actually I think the most useful would either be trying to track down things that differ from the original hardware. e.g. take something from NML32s list and see if you can work out why it doesn't work. Then I can look in detail at the hardware for that part. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greblus Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 (edited) Hi Foft.I don't know if it's related to recent changes (write verify fix) but I'm finally able to save/load memory in Freezer(S and E save / exec extern) to a file on floppy image! This is great. Thank you! I've yet to experiment with the max sizeof such disk image to know how many savestates will fit on one image . Update: An image with 65535 x 256b sectors = 16MB (MyDos) created and formatted in makeATR works fine. Time to play some more Cheers, W. Edited January 11, 2015 by greblus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanfanel Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 I think I have found an incompatible game: http://www.atarimania.com/game-atari-400-800-xl-xe-jewels-of-darkness_6708.html The ATR available there will only load until one selects the game. Then the selected adventure will start loading but will stop loading soon after. I have also tried the PAL versions and the same thing happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foft Posted January 14, 2015 Author Share Posted January 14, 2015 (edited) Confirmed it fails on my drive emulation (i.e. sd card). I think it has a custom loader that does not retry failed packets and my drive emulation code misses the odd one. It does work when loading from aspeqt though so its not a core issue. In fact it runs very nicely at 16x speed - near instant picture drawing on the Level 9 adventures:). I've done some firmware fixes on sockit with drive emulation recently - will have to rebuild and see if it fixes this. Fingers crossed:) Edited January 14, 2015 by foft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farb Posted January 17, 2015 Share Posted January 17, 2015 Has anyone been able to get a CAR file of Bounty Bob Strikes Back! working? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foft Posted January 17, 2015 Author Share Posted January 17, 2015 Has anyone been able to get a CAR file of Bounty Bob Strikes Back! working? That is a cartridge type all on its own! There is no hardware support in the cart emu logic. Suggest using the xex version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farb Posted January 18, 2015 Share Posted January 18, 2015 Thanks, foft. Makes sense, I just wanted to confirm I wasn't doing something wrong :-) Another question for you: is there any chance of the Atari 8-bit core supporting the ATX (copy protected) disk format? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foft Posted January 18, 2015 Author Share Posted January 18, 2015 Another question for you: is there any chance of the Atari 8-bit core supporting the ATX (copy protected) disk format? No plans but firmware patches will be happily accepted! Sorry, too many other things to do. Of course for platforms with gpio pins a real drive or other sio device can be used. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electrotrains Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 Hi Foft, Hope all well - this thread has been a bit quiet lately! I was wondering if the cartridge slot is broken out on the GPIO pins of the DE1? I can see the GPIO pin assignments in the source source, so it looks like they are - but do I need to do anything to enable this? (e.g. looks like phi2 is GPIO_0[35] -> PIN_L18) I was hoping to do experiments with home made cartridges, using a 128k parallel flash and a XC9572XL CPLD for bank switching logic - I'm waiting for a breakout board for my real atari's cartridge slot to arrive in the post, and thought I could maybe get started using my DE1 board as the atari instead. Regards, Robin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foft Posted February 18, 2015 Author Share Posted February 18, 2015 All quiet on my end on the Atari front. We have a new baby so its not actually quiet:) Yes the cartridge is broken out. As well as wiring it up rd4 and rd5 need pull downs. Also gpio enable (sw4 I think) needs switching on. Some warnings: I) The DE1/Cyclone II is not 5V tolerant. I have some level converter boards using idt quickswitches if needed. ii) I will be changing the pinout fairly soon. iii) As far as I'm aware only Hias and I have used this. Everything I have works(4 carts!) but probably not yet everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electrotrains Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 Congratulations on the new baby! Our youngest is almost two and not really a baby any more - life gets much easier when they sleep through the night :-) Thanks for the info - I'm aware of the 5V/3.3V issue though haven't got too much practical experience of it, since most of my electronics experience has been with 5v ATMEGA chips. My first plan was just to have a look at the signal timing with a logic analyser, so I've got a better idea of how everything works. The next thing i was thinking was to hook up a AT28c64 EEPROM (8k, 5v) to the DE1 and see if the EEPROM programming (using an arduino) actually worked. I'm guessing the address lines will just work (think the chip will be happy with 3.3v inputs - TODO check the datasheet), but I'm guessing I need to level shift the data lines out the EEPROM and into the DE1 from 5v to 3.3v. I've got a 74LVC245 I can use for that. Then I can start playing with with the CPLD and bank switching with an AT28c256 (32k). Will let you know how I get on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electrotrains Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 Foft, A quick test - with sw4 on (but nothing plugged in) the DE1 atari boots into self test (some random characters on screen during boot). I've connected both RD4 & 5 (GPIO 0 - pins 9 & 22) to ground (pin 12) on the DE1 GPIO header - but no difference. Have I missed anything? Robin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foft Posted February 18, 2015 Author Share Posted February 18, 2015 (edited) Did you map the pins to 40 pin header pins. ie there are 36 GPIOs and 40 pins, with the power/ground pins mixed in. See the bottom of the file. ie gpio signal 9 is pin 10 and gpio signal 22 is pin 25. Edited February 18, 2015 by foft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electrotrains Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 I'm an idiot. Thanks that's fixed it - boots normally now with SW4 on. In my defense, the labelling of the diagram in the DE1 user guide is not very clear! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tschak909 Posted February 18, 2015 Share Posted February 18, 2015 What is the best board to run this on? -Thom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foft Posted February 18, 2015 Author Share Posted February 18, 2015 What is the best board to run this on? -Thom I refer you to the platform feature matrix in section 1.3: http://www.scrameta.net/Atari%20800%20FPGA%20Manual.pdf If you are struggling to decide between them after checking the features post back here with more details and I can help. There are two more candidate boards not on there yet. I wouldn't recommend them yet, but for completeness: SOCkit (like DE1 with bigger FPGA - some key features don't work yet), Papilio Duo (Hardware on hand but not ported to it yet). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlowingGhoul Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 I refer you to the platform feature matrix in section 1.3: http://www.scrameta.net/Atari%20800%20FPGA%20Manual.pdf If you are struggling to decide between them after checking the features post back here with more details and I can help. There are two more candidate boards not on there yet. I wouldn't recommend them yet, but for completeness: SOCkit (like DE1 with bigger FPGA - some key features don't work yet), Papilio Duo (Hardware on hand but not ported to it yet). Bad link. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tschak909 Posted February 19, 2015 Share Posted February 19, 2015 Seriously, looking at that hardware matrix, makes my heart sink. Half of that hardware isn't available to most people. Is someone going to have to make a board purpose built? -Thom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foft Posted February 19, 2015 Author Share Posted February 19, 2015 Bad link. http://www.scrameta.net/Atari%20800%20FPGA%20Manual.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foft Posted February 19, 2015 Author Share Posted February 19, 2015 (edited) Seriously, looking at that hardware matrix, makes my heart sink. Half of that hardware isn't available to most people. Is someone going to have to make a board purpose built? -Thom A custom board would be cool... If anyone is planning one please drop me a note first. De1: $150 http://www.terasic.com.tw/cgi-bin/page/archive.pl?No=83 Replay: Agreed! Mist: 200EUR http://lotharek.pl/product.php?pid=96 Chameleon:250EUR (+ c64 or docking station) https://icomp.de/shop-icomp/en/produkt-details/product/Turbo_Chameleon_64.html Mcctv: $80 http://www.arcaderetrogaming.com/shop/catalog/browse?sessid=XWcp5XpelAhoexwagFZk2t5EdMPaQrksCTTtvTRMagVb87mXHo7hGc02OLZzpkSJ&shop_param= Mcc216: $130-150 (as above) Edited February 19, 2015 by foft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanfanel Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 Hi, foft! I have a friend with experience that's interested in producing a custom board. He would do an study on time and prices in a couple of days. Should I put you two in contact? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foft Posted February 20, 2015 Author Share Posted February 20, 2015 Yes, please do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesD Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 I refer you to the platform feature matrix in section 1.3: http://www.scrameta.net/Atari%20800%20FPGA%20Manual.pdf If you are struggling to decide between them after checking the features post back here with more details and I can help. There are two more candidate boards not on there yet. I wouldn't recommend them yet, but for completeness: SOCkit (like DE1 with bigger FPGA - some key features don't work yet), Papilio Duo (Hardware on hand but not ported to it yet). SOCkit looks interesting. Does SOCkit require any mods to the VGA output? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foft Posted February 20, 2015 Author Share Posted February 20, 2015 SOCkit looks interesting. Does SOCkit require any mods to the VGA output? Not sure what kind of vga mods you mean. The vga port works. The problem with the SOCkit is I don't have sdram or USB working. The USB is a linux setup problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesD Posted February 20, 2015 Share Posted February 20, 2015 Not sure what kind of vga mods you mean. The vga port works. The problem with the SOCkit is I don't have sdram or USB working. The USB is a linux setup problem. Didn't the DE1 require mods to show enough colors? (or maybe that was a different project) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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