oky2000 Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 VCS has many awesome games but every system has one game you will play forever and for the 2600 for me it has always been Vanguard, it's like the granddaddy of Konami's Salamander and I prefer the colourful VCS graphics to the 5200 arcade carbon copy graphics. I will still be playing this in decades ahead How about you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ransom Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 For me, it'd probably be a tie between Adventure (great use of randomization to keep it interesting) and Kaboom! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtariTexas Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 i been playing the heck out of Spider Fighter lately 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
potatohead Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 KABOOM! Every so often, I have to have a long play session. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Phruby Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 Adventure, Pacman4k and E.T. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectorGamer Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 Vanguard, it's like the granddaddy of Konami's Salamander Actually the "granddaddy" of Salamander is Scramble Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keatah Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 Missile Command, Slot Racers, Miniature Golf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oky2000 Posted August 29, 2013 Author Share Posted August 29, 2013 Actually the "granddaddy" of Salamander is Scramble Salamander alternates vertical and horizontal scrolling shmup levels, so Scramble may be the single celled Amoeba of all shmups but Vanguard was the first shmup I know of that alternated between vertical and horizontal scrolling levels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectorGamer Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 Salamander alternates vertical and horizontal scrolling shmup levels, so Scramble may be the single celled Amoeba of all shmups but Vanguard was the first shmup I know of that alternated between vertical and horizontal scrolling levels. Salamander, Konami 1986 http://www.arcade-museum.com/game_detail.php?game_id=9410 Salamander was originally a spin-off of Gradius Gradius, Konami 1985 http://www.arcade-museum.com/game_detail.php?game_id=7987 This is a horizontally scrolling shoot-em-up where the player destroys waves of oncoming enemies. Scramble, Konami 1981 http://www.arcade-museum.com/game_detail.php?game_id=9447 Player controls a spaceship that must infiltrate the enemy Scramble system in this side-view shooter/bomber classic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oky2000 Posted August 29, 2013 Author Share Posted August 29, 2013 There are 100s of vertical OR horizontally scrolling shoot'em up games from Gradius/Nemesis backwards chronologically and its progressive weapons upgrade system rather than it's scrolling background are the greatest improvement to gameplay in Gradius (and this is the spin off aspect of Gradius) including limited shielding (seen in Vanguard first). Salamander however is different to gradius in a few areas. 1. The play area although horizontally scrolling in Gradius/Nemesis does allow some 20% vertical movement if you move your vic viper to top or bottom edge and continue doing so, Salamander does not provide this extra breathing space, the screen width is the play area width too. 2. The weapons upgrades are generic tokens in Gradius which you accumulate and use with strategy (multiple or laser first etc) in Salamander they are specific instant upgrades for specific weapons/feature upgrades so you literally pick up a ripple laser pack upgrade instantly. 3 Salamander is the first one I know of after Vanguard (there may be others) that has a specific map which requires the game to be changed from horizontal to vertical shmup sections combining two previously separate game types and alternating back and forth between H/V scrolling again many times in order to play through the entire game to completion. 4. Salamander and Vanguard have speech, Scramble and Nemesis/Gradius do not. 5. Scramble has no shield power up, Vanguard/Nemesis/Salamander do however (even if Vanguard's is time limited and Konami classics are hit sustained limited) So for that reason whatever Wikipedia says Salamander has nothing more in common with Scramble than it scrolls the screen SOME OF THE TIME from left to right (although technically Scramble like many early arcade machines is using a monitor rotated 90 degrees in the cab so it is technically a vertically scrolling game too as far as the executed machine code goes). Like I said Scramble is a single celled organism and Vanguard is the equivalent of the mammal that outlived the dinosaurs if Salamander is the modern human in gaming style evolutionary terms. YMMV and we shall agree to disagree methinks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cynicaster Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 Frostbite Kaboom Enduro Pressure Cooker Keystone Kapers Megamania 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyChris Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 This Planet Sucks 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabriel Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 Probably a tie between Missile Command and Adventure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooter83 Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 Missile command asteroids or pole position of say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JadeETC Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 Centipede. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lentzquest Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 Definitely Beamrider. With Galaxian, Pac-Man, Dragonfire, and Journey Escape not all that far behind. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtariLeaf Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 (edited) Circus Atari Centipede/Millipede Phoenix Spider Fighter Megamania Stargate Asteroids Berzerk Solar Fox Ms Pacman Ice Hockey Bump N Jump Video Pinball Galaxian Edited August 29, 2013 by AtariLeaf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoctorTom Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 Adventure Missile Command Yar's Revenge Asteroids Frogger Demon Attack If I had to pick one I played the absolute most all time, it might be Frogger, but it's hard to say for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
totengott Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 It's a toss up between space invaders and ms Pac man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bomberpunk Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 alphabetically... Asteroids Berzerk Defender Enduro Warlords Yars' Revenge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Dart Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 Definitely Beamrider. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitrosport Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 Demon attack and yars revenge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yarjr Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 (edited) Frostbite, Frostbite,Frostbite, followed by Ms.Pacman..... getting the frostbite withdrawal shakes right now actually. Edited August 30, 2013 by yarjr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oky2000 Posted August 30, 2013 Author Share Posted August 30, 2013 (edited) Plenty of great ideas here to get my teeth stuck into, keep em coming For the record I loved Berzerk, Phoenix, Defender, Space Invaders, Pac-man, ESB, Atlantis too. Edited August 30, 2013 by oky2000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oky2000 Posted August 30, 2013 Author Share Posted August 30, 2013 Demon attack and yars revenge. I never had Yars Revenge as a kid but played it about a year ago for the first time and it was pretty damned fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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