pimpmaul69 Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 No, but the next person who bought your returned item sure might. Sorry, but that's an incredibly dick move to do something like that. Never mind illegal in most jurisdictions, even if your odds of being caught are practically nil. its a pretty dick move if sams club resells a broken system. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy62 Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 No, but the next person who bought your returned item sure might. Sorry, but that's an incredibly dick move to do something like that. Never mind illegal in most jurisdictions, even if your odds of being caught are practically nil. I was thinking the same thing. Who would do that to the next person.....for some overlays, really? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimpmaul69 Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 I was thinking the same thing. Who would do that to the next person.....for some overlays, really?again, why would sams club resell a defective flashback? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy62 Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 Great point once it is returned anyway as defective it should be returned to the manufacturer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Loguidice Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 Great point once it is returned anyway as defective it should be returned to the manufacturer. Usually, but sometimes it is put back out on the floor. I know that happened to me at a Wal-Mart with a TV. I had to insist that it really was broken and they shouldn't put it back out on the floor. Someone did that prior, which is why I got the defective TV in the first place, then they were going to turn around and do it again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atarifan88 Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 (edited) Nobody should ever have to convince a store not to put a defective item back on the floor. That's terrible! Edited November 6, 2014 by atarifan88 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulBlazer Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 (edited) I wouldn't have kept anything anyway. There are other Sam's Clubs near me. In any case I'm just happy to finally have my 3 working Flashbacks. Edited November 6, 2014 by SoulBlazer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daldude Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 (edited) OK here is a full shot of the Shelves with the Flashback systems on them at Walmart, the Intellivision is still turned around like it was when I left it the day before so no one seems to be buying them so I don't know why others have problems finding them in stock at other stores. Edited November 6, 2014 by daldude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+nurmix Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 Nobody should ever have to convince a store not to put a defective item back on the floor. That's terrible! Ever shop at Fry's Electronics? Half their inventory is made up of returned / defective products. They take it back from the customer, re-shrink wrap it, slap a discounted price sticker on it (saying it 'may have been returned'), and back to the shelf it goes. You have to be really careful to only get a box that doesn't have that sticker on it if you want a working product. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+intvsteve Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 Ever shop at Fry's Electronics? Half their inventory is made up of returned / defective products. They take it back from the customer, re-shrink wrap it, slap a discounted price sticker on it (saying it 'may have been returned'), and back to the shelf it goes. You have to be really careful to only get a box that doesn't have that sticker on it if you want a working product. Yeah -- it's pretty pathetic when something that's obviously unusable because it's missing parts is slapped back on the shelf. For the past couple years, at least at the one around here, Fry's seems to have more and more cologne and other random stupid crap and less and less of the good stuff. I used to go there a few times a week but now rarely. Each time, it seems more desolate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+SoulBuster Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 I think the practice of re-stocking returned items here in Sacramento has stopped, at least at the Roseville. I have not seen those tags after the Roseville one opened. We have two now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Lathe26 Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 That's been my experience as well at Fry's. I used to go once a month just to look at the cool stuff and buy things. Now I just go once a year and walk out empty handed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+nurmix Posted November 6, 2014 Share Posted November 6, 2014 I still shop there weekly, as I always need some component or part for my (computer/IT) business. They are the best local source for computer parts and electronic components. I just know how to choose the correct boxes, and never bother to ask any employee for anything (they get mad when you interrupt their drunken "conquest/hero" stories from the night before). I can't tell you how many times I've been in there to overhear these things (with the accompanying 'ghetto' language).. The majority of the male employees have no concept of appropriate behavior in front of customers. I'm not personally offended, mind you, but I see parents with their children shopping, and I know they hear it, it's not good. I think they hire only people who are 20-something and still working on their GED... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+intvsteve Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 Interesting... and very different employee demographic than what I've encountered. For PC parts, etc. a majority of the time they're clueless, but a reasonable amount of the time they know which end of a cable goes where. I stay away from the consumer electronics folks (TVs, stereos) -- that's certainly a different crowd. Maybe it depends on time of day -- it's usually weekdays around lunchtime when I go, so the 'full timers' are there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+nurmix Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 Interesting... and very different employee demographic than what I've encountered. For PC parts, etc. a majority of the time they're clueless, but a reasonable amount of the time they know which end of a cable goes where. I stay away from the consumer electronics folks (TVs, stereos) -- that's certainly a different crowd. Maybe it depends on time of day -- it's usually weekdays around lunchtime when I go, so the 'full timers' are there. That may be it. I rarely go on weekends. Usually it's like a Tuesday at 9:30 am or something. Perhaps I always see the "B level" (or "C level") employees then. My favorite are the door 'receipt checkers'. They clearly have no idea what most of the parts I buy even are, but they peer knowingly into my bag for 2 seconds, glance at the receipt for .5 seconds, and squiggle it with a highlighter and occasionally say 'thank you' (usually they just grunt and go back to talking to their co-workers). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+SoulBuster Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 They are only counting the items. Not really looking at what they are. Also, did you know door checkers do not have a right to check your bag on the way out? All you have to do is keep walking and say No Thank You!. This works for any doors checkers except when you are a member of a club like Sam's or Costco. They have you agree when signing up that you will allow door checkers to look in your bag. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+nurmix Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 (edited) They are only counting the items. Not really looking at what they are. Also, did you know door checkers do not have a right to check your bag on the way out? All you have to do is keep walking and say No Thank You!. This works for any doors checkers except when you are a member of a club like Sam's or Costco. They have you agree when signing up that you will allow door checkers to look in your bag. I wasn't aware of that, Tim. I'll have to give it a try. These people must be the fastest counters in the world, when in 1 second they can see more than 30 small items in a bag. Oh, and to get this back on topic... I wonder if Fry's will carry the Flashbacks? Edited November 7, 2014 by nurmix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimpmaul69 Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 I wasn't aware of that, Tim. I'll have to give it a try. These people must be the fastest counters in the world, when in 1 second they can see more than 30 small items in a bag. Oh, and to get this back on topic... I wonder if Fry's will carry the Flashbacks? i never let them check my bag. I got a greeter at walmart fired for trying to chase me down outside of the store. I am not a thief and i dont care to get treated like one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+SoulBuster Posted November 7, 2014 Share Posted November 7, 2014 The bag checker thing came to a head when a man refused and was detained. The police came and put him in jail. It was later found that his constitutional right were violated. Here is a great article: http://www.thelegality.com/2008/03/12/stop-that-paying-customer-the-legality-of-compulsory-receipt-checking/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freewheel Posted November 8, 2014 Share Posted November 8, 2014 The only place in Canada that does this with any regularity is Costco (and at worst, they can cancel your membership if you ignore them - presuming they figure out who you are on the way out). Best Buy attempts it from time to time, when they ask me if they can check my receipt I just smile and say "no thank you" and continue walking. I can't even fathom the police being called in a situation like this, but then again we're talking about a place where people have been accosted by the police for walking about during "God Bless America". Land of the Free and all that. Those idiotic alarms that trigger if someone tries to take unpaid merchandise out of the store? Or trigger seemingly at random? There's no legal requirement to stop for those, either. Store clerks/managers really dislike me at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onmode-ky Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 I have the same one, and I'm 95% sure it's NOAC. EVERYTHING in this space was NOAC not too long ago. If by "everything in this space" you mean only the Intellivision plug-n-play space, then yes, it was all NOAC; the only products prior to the Flashback were in Techno Source's "TV Play" series, which were all NOACs. However, if you're talking about retro plug-n-play game systems in general, that's not accurate. Nothing released by the two most prominent firms in the space, Jakks Pacific and AtGames, has ever been based on a NOAC. Jakks' VCS/2600 collections were most likely built on 65C816-compatible Winbond microcontrollers, and their various arcade collections (Namco, Capcom, Midway (Mortal Kombat), Taito) and Genesis EA Sports collection have all been built on Sunplus/Generalplus proprietary-architecture microcontrollers. AtGames has used SMS/GG-on-a-chip and Genesis-on-a-chip implementations for their Sega products. Also, back before they were bought by Mattel, Radica too had a Genesis-on-a-chip implementation for their Sega products. There were NOAC-based plug-n-play collections, like Majesco's Konami collections and the aforementioned Techno Source Intellivision collections, but they were not the majority. 100Mhz eh? Well, I won't *quite* take back what I said in the Ultimate Flashback thread, but wow. That's some pretty low-spec hardware to do full emulation on, unless you have some more experienced programmers. No wonder they have emulation challenges. They need to go back 15 years and license a core from one of the pioneers Back when AtGames/Digital Media Cartridge's Titan chip was first announced (2005), it was a pretty high-spec chip to be used in these kinds of toys. None of the other plug-n-play game makers were using anything like a dual 32-bit RISC chip. A contact of mine once suggested that the reason AtGames could produce such a chip cheaply enough might be that they had a relationship with an ARM-licensed chip company. onmode-ky 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavvv Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 btw, has anyone seen them show up at Sam's Club yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Intymike Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 Received my Flashback that I ordered at Toys'r'us .com. Great controllers and works fine over here in Germany. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_c Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 btw, has anyone seen them show up at Sam's Club yet? The Sam's here had five of them when I was there Thursday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavvv Posted November 10, 2014 Share Posted November 10, 2014 saw that as part of Meijer's black friday ad, it will be having all the AtGames flashbacks at 29.99 and Walgreens will have them at 34.99 gavv http://bfads.net/Category/Video-Games?search=flash&category=Video-Games Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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