wolfy62 Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 Who released the #26 Lock 'N' chase (8K Collapsing Lupin)? I know this is not you FDR, but......without a box instructions and new overlays, this game will never count in my Homebrew collection. 59 and out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_me Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 I know this is not you FDR, but......without a box instructions and new overlays, this game will never count in my Homebrew collection. 59 and out!How can a game programmed by Mattel Electronics in 1982 be a 'homebrew'? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+fdr4prez Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 I know this is not you FDR, but......without a box instructions and new overlays, this game will never count in my Homebrew collection. 59 and out! Wolfy, you make it sound to be in the same boat as intvdave's recent releases for baseball and mystic castle, and his other pending releases. Those were (and will be) only board releases, so not even a complete cart, so do those count in your homebrew collection? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy62 Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 Wolfy, you make it sound to be in the same boat as intvdave's recent releases for baseball and mystic castle, and his other pending releases. Those were (and will be) only board releases, so not even a complete cart, so do those count in your homebrew collection? I may at one point count them in MY Homebrew collection if I get a box,overlays,cart stickers and instruction book for them which may well happen. Do i count them as part of an official Homebrew collection list? I don't think so due to the fact they are just modifications of already existing intellivision 125 games. Yea, I do say no on those,and even Blix! which I do have, and have a box, instructions and overlays for,it was released in a small quantity,at one location, and only as a cart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy62 Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 How can a game programmed by Mattel Electronics in 1982 be a 'homebrew'? Great point!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+SoulBuster Posted December 27, 2016 Author Share Posted December 27, 2016 How can a game programmed by Mattel Electronics in 1982 be a 'homebrew'? That statement would remove: Adventures of Tron Blow out Brickout Choplifter Deep Pockets Flintstones Game Factory Hard hat Illusions King of the Mountain Land Battle League of Light Lock N Chase Magic Carousel Mousr Trap Mystic Castle Number Jumble Robot Rubble Rocky and Bullwinkle Scarfinger Space Cadet Spina the Bee Super Chef BT Super Pro Baseball Super Pro Football Super Pro Tennis Yogi's Frustration did I miss any that were programmed back in the day? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 Multiple of the above mentioned list have had code changes. Some small. Some large. Those could be classified as 'hack' I guess. (I don't like that term) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_me Posted December 27, 2016 Share Posted December 27, 2016 (edited) Multiple of the above mentioned list have had code changes. Some small. Some large. Those could be classified as 'hack' I guess. (I don't like that term) Call it a 'mod'. But mods/hacks shouldn't be distributed with the original code without permission even more so when money is being collected. It is possible to distribute the mod separately and the end-user provides the original code. In Soulbuster's list at post #356 'Ms Night Stalker' [, 'Takeover' and 'Space C*nt] can be added; and he probably meant 'Super NFL Football' rather than Super Pro Football. Edited December 27, 2016 by mr_me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+SoulBuster Posted December 27, 2016 Author Share Posted December 27, 2016 Call it a 'mod'. But mods/hacks shouldn't be distributed with the original code without permission even more so when money is being collected. It is possible to distribute the mod separately and the end-user provides the original code. In Soulbuster's list at post #356 'Ms Night Stalker' [, 'Takeover' and 'Space C*nt] can be added; and he probably meant 'Super NFL Football' rather than Super Pro Football. Yes you are right about Football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+BBWW Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 Call them Post 2000 releases and everybody stop whining. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+cmart604 Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 Call them Post 2000 releases and everybody stop whining. Haha! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy62 Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 Call them Post 2000 releases and everybody stop whining. Pretty good idea! By the way, this is just a friendly discussion among us Intellivision fans in an open Forum,for fun! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m-crew Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 Call them Post 2000 releases. or ROM variants, 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GroovyBee Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 Or prototypes, hacks and homebrews 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+BBWW Posted December 28, 2016 Share Posted December 28, 2016 Or prototypes, hacks and homebrews - OH MY! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+SoulBuster Posted December 29, 2016 Author Share Posted December 29, 2016 Added Sydney Hunter and the Sacred Tribe for a total of 61 (includes one that is not listed) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+the1hatman Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 Call them Post 2000 releases and everybody stop whining. I actually think there is merit to this idea. Rather than calling everything released after INTV went under a "homebrew" there should be 2 categories: Homebrew: Original programming for a game released post 125. Subsets could be rom and cart releases. Post 125: Any altered, repaired or unreleased original programming from the 125 era. That provides the proper recognization of and distinction between original era programming and its creators and for those who craft original games in the modern era. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_me Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 Three categories as groovybee suggested is correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DZ-Jay Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 Or prototypes, hacks and homebrews And bootlegs. Don't forget, some where released "as is" without changing the ROM, directly from a T-Card. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_me Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 Yes, unless you got the 'prototype' rom from Intellivision Productions it would be a bootleg of a prototype. If you have BCs Quest for Tires it would be a homebrew prototype but not a bootleg. 'Bootleg' could be applied to any category: original 125, prototypes, hacks/mods, homebrews. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m-crew Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 And bootlegs. Don't forget, some where released "as is" without changing the ROM, directly from a T-Card.The List could go on and on Here Ill stir the pot again: Because Really how could these go on a list when they were not a full PUBLIC release... Private Releases (to the chosen ones);P Low production releases(to everyone involved in and around game release) only 30 or so physical copies made.. Maybe these should/could be mentioned as a footnote on being made and released but really should not be place on a list that contains full releases to the general public... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GroovyBee Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 Yes, unless you got the 'prototype' rom from Intellivision Productions it would be a bootleg of a prototype. I disagree. If its a dump from a BITD T-Card hen its still a prototype. The only legitimacy needed (outside of Keith) is for it to be a T-Card of some kind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DZ-Jay Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 I disagree with the whole attitude that, since deeper classifications are not perfect, then they are useless and best avoided. In order to be constructive and for the classifications to be truly useful, we need to distinguish between something like, say, Sydney Hunter and Robot Rubble -- one being a true home-brew, the others bootleg release of a prototype. But this requires people to admit to themselves that their collections are a bit less than Kosher. It's OK, this is how it's done for any other collectible artefact, and it's fine. But have to get over the hang-up of calling everything a "home-brew," because it is not useful to collectors, programmers, nor publishers. -dZ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m-crew Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 (edited) But this requires people to admit to themselves that their collections are a bit less than Kosher. It's OK, this is how it's done for any other collectible artefact, and it's fine. But have to get over the hang-up of calling everything a "home-brew," because it is not useful to collectors, programmers, nor publishers. -dZ. As long as there is no collective decisions on what truly belongs on any lists here, These conflicts on what belongs on what will occur. Its all about the $$$$ what is put on a list.. Like if 124/125/126 list didn't have triple challenge on it the demand would be less, because people wouldn't need it to complete the original releases.. Because really its just a release of 3 single releases.. And Atari pac man wasn't added to it because its only title screen and packaging change release..(in my opinion it should be added) What makes these lists "the lists" to go by and be pinned as the gospel of the intellivision collection and community.. Edited December 29, 2016 by m-crew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m-crew Posted December 29, 2016 Share Posted December 29, 2016 Oh No!!! A can of worms has been opened here!!! Let the show begin.. cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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