Willard Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 (edited) As some discussion about the number of Jaguar's sold comes up in the Jaguar forums once in awhile (despite no solid figures that I can recall), I thought it'd be nice to share a document that Buddybuddies and I came across that discloses lifetime sales of Jaguar games. This is only through April 1995 but I think it's still an interesting look at how the Jaguar was doing. I have attached the document to this post but you can also see it on our website. Although our site keeps getting constantly delayed (even by recent estimates), we are hoping to provide some other interesting features in the near future. Jaguar Lifetime Sales Complete 600dpi.pdf Edited May 18, 2016 by Willard 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serblander Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 Thanks for sharing I find this quite interesting, especially the unreleased games shown all with 6 Total Units next to them for Total Sales of $240, what is up with that?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmx Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 Great info, thanks for sharing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterG Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 Cool, thanks, I also wondered about the unreleased games. Also nice to see how many units AvP and Tempest sold in comparation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+jeremiahjt Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 I always thought Alien vs. Predator must have been their best seller. I am surprised how close Doom is to Tempest 2000. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clint Thompson Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 Those numbers are appalling and I like how Checkered Flag is listed as Checkered Flag II. Doom makes sense, it was only one of the best games of the 90s but its nice to see AvP took lead on it. What I'm truly blown away by is that Kasumi Ninja and Tevor McFur outsold Iron Soldier in number of units. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 It was stated on numerous occasions that AvP sold at a ratio of nearly 1:1 with the console, so there can't have been very many consoles at all out there at the time... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Dangerous Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 Whats up with all the games listed at 6, especially the Jag CD ones that obviously sold more. And Hoverstrike? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterG Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 Where the CD games already available at that time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clint Thompson Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 Whats up with all the games listed at 6, especially the Jag CD ones that obviously sold more. And Hoverstrike? Could have possibly been placed in to account for a few beta/demo carts in circulation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KidGameR186496 Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 As some discussion about the number of Jaguar's sold comes up in the Jaguar forums once in awhile (despite no solid figures that I can recall), I thought it'd be nice to share a document that Buddybuddies and I came across that discloses lifetime sales of Jaguar games. This is only through April 1995 but I think it's still an interesting look at how the Jaguar was doing. I have attached the document to this post but you can also see it on our website. Although our site keeps getting constantly delayed (even by recent estimates), we are hoping to provide some other interesting features in the near future. Jaguar_Lifetime_Sales.PNG Can we see how well the other games did? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seedy1812 Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 (edited) It was stated on numerous occasions that AvP sold at a ratio of nearly 1:1 with the console, so there can't have been very many consoles at all out there at the time... Both Doom and AvP had only been released 6 months. Depending upon the game Atari would have made a run of 'n' thousands of rom carts and seen how well it sells before making more. There are a few games not on the list ( defender 2000 and Iwar spring to mind which would have not been released by then). The follow years figures would paint a more balanced picture of the sales. To me I'm personally surprised with Bubsy's sales as Dino Dudes had been on sale almost 3 times as long. I never considered how many were sold as we were working on one game and then moving onto the next. Edited May 18, 2016 by Seedy1812 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willard Posted May 18, 2016 Author Share Posted May 18, 2016 Whats up with all the games listed at 6, especially the Jag CD ones that obviously sold more. And Hoverstrike? I don't think those games were released at the time (the ones with no asterisk and with 6 as number of sales). I'm not sure the reason for having them included on the list, especially since we know a few of them never came close to completion. Can we see how well the other games did? Unfortunately, the only sales figures we had are on that document. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+save2600 Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 Nice! Can probably extrapolate some more figures out of this data too, such as margins and MSRP's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willard Posted May 18, 2016 Author Share Posted May 18, 2016 (edited) Nice! Can probably extrapolate some more figures out of this data too, such as margins and MSRP's. I did some basic averages for a couple of games (for example, AVP =2363876/52223 = $45.27 / Copy). Trevor McFur averaged about $31.5 / Copy which makes sense because it had been out long enough that a lot of copies sold were probably discounted. But I agree it'd be interesting to see this evaluated for some additional information! It might shed more light onto why some of the games were cancelled and more high profile ports/original games weren't developed if they could reach sales numbers like AVP or DOOM. The Atari Museum has a developer payment schedule that I think would be interesting note in combination with sales info and margin info. Edited May 18, 2016 by Willard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+davidcalgary29 Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 'Trevor McFur' was one of the best-selling titles?! Oy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+SabertoothRetro Posted May 24, 2016 Share Posted May 24, 2016 (edited) I did some basic averages for a couple of games (for example, AVP =2363876/52223 = $45.27 / Copy). Trevor McFur averaged about $31.5 / Copy which makes sense because it had been out long enough that a lot of copies sold were probably discounted. But I agree it'd be interesting to see this evaluated for some additional information! It might shed more light onto why some of the games were cancelled and more high profile ports/original games weren't developed if they could reach sales numbers like AVP or DOOM. The Atari Museum has a developer payment schedule that I think would be interesting note in combination with sales info and margin info. Unfortunately, none of the titles on the ITD sales report appear on the titles in development list from August of '95. We would need an earlier titles in development report to see the true margins on most released titles. For me, the titles in development list is interesting because it shows how much was invested in high profile licenses like Iron Man, Batman Forever and Mortal Kombat 3; titles that never really came to fruition. Compare this to what Atari Corp. spent on Zoop, Baldies or Defender 2000. I would have taken fifteen more released games like Skyhammer, IS2 or Phase Zero for the money they wasted on those cancelled titles. Edited May 24, 2016 by atariLBC 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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