Jagosaurus Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 When there is tcp/ip support the jag can connect over the internet if you require vpn that can be done with external hardware devices. Tcp/ip would be more then enough. I did suggest an option that would run the tcp/ip stack on the embedded chip to offload this of the Jaguar, and makes it just easy in/out data and allows due to that higher transferspeed. I do like the idea of a portal to connect to download new releases of software or updates. Sent from UMI hammer with Tapatalk While it's been a few yrs since I researched it, the Mario Kart Double Dash set up is: GCN on LAN, PC on LAN, PC handling VPN tunnel, need correct open ports on ISP router. Another end user is doing this also off sitr, "tricks" the GCN into thinking... or simulates the two console being on a single network for local play. This is actually very similar to what we do at work everyday for IP telephony between multiple sites, under one umbrella system. Essentially, this is local play, over a WAN. Wishful thinking, but a cool possibility. I'll take SD card function first . The "app stores" could always be: pay dev, DL ROM to PC, manually transfer ROM to SD, pop SD into cart still in Jag. Not everyone will have their Jag near a LAN port so the manual transfer of files will be used by many even if there is a RJ45 connection. My Jag happens to near my router. I do like the idea of having the cart support FTP for ROM file transfers over the network (a la the PS2 phat HDD mods). Now, that'd be slick. Again, getting way ahead here lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TXG/MNX Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 Vpn is really not needed why just a plain tcp/ip connection would be great. Just setup a port and ip to connect two player. For more then two you can decide to run it on a jaguar or gameserver pc/mac/raspberrypi. I don't think the Jaguar would be a good target for hacking. Just make sure the Jaguar is behind your router firewall you be safe... Sent from UMI hammer with Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VladR Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 Vpn is really not needed why just a plain tcp/ip connection would be great. Just setup a port and ip to connect two player. Exactly. TCP/IP support would be more than enough. I would actually welcome it more than the SD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blazing Lazers Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 Awesome to see confirmation of this, especially after being one of those PMing about it. Please do add me to any lists for preordering Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jagosaurus Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 Exactly. TCP/IP support would be more than enough. I would actually welcome it more than the SD. Nice. Everything we do at work is VPN/WAN or a 128 bit AES encrypted stream hitting a soft switch. Not familiar with TCP over the internet, essentially two devices going out over the open internet and seeing each other via IP? In my world, I see a host finding a MAC address for that type of (non secure) set up. Would be interested to see it. You only know what you've seen/installed. Again... all hypothetical as it relates to this cart. Let's get SD functionality working Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TXG/MNX Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 Vpn an eas security is not needed at home with a console. Are you afraid something evil will happen when the jaguar runs unsecure over the internet ? Look at it to open the world of multiplay on jaguar. Sent from UMI hammer with Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jagosaurus Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 Vpn an eas security is not needed at home with a console. Are you afraid something evil will happen when the jaguar runs unsecure over the internet ? Look at it to open the world of multiplay on jaguar. Sent from UMI hammer with Tapatalk Lol as I said, you only know what you install. We're enterprise environment only. Would ultra vortek be able to work via TCP as it had modem play? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VladR Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 Lol as I said, you only know what you install. We're enterprise environment only. Would ultra vortek be able to work via TCP as it had modem play? Well, not right out of the box. If there was a source code - it would be relatively easy to add the TCPIP support. But mostly, this would be for new titles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+CyranoJ Posted June 27, 2016 Share Posted June 27, 2016 Well, not right out of the box. If there was a source code - it would be relatively easy to add the TCPIP support. But mostly, this would be for new titles. Probably take a weekend, right? Give or take a few on/off ramps.... 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Dangerous Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 Probably take a weekend, right? Give or take a few on/off ramps.... LOL SD Cart will be perfect for loading up the Road Rash 3D ROM on my Jaguar. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+CyranoJ Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 LOL SD Cart will be perfect for loading up the Road Rash 3D ROM on my Jaguar. The last thing this project needs is to be waiting on Vladr for anything. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mmm Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 Some people just want to be able to play the old games they have fond memories of, or experience the things they never had. These are more the type of people which would buy an SD cart. I call this ppl gamers... can't wait for having your cart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDIRunner Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 Very happy to hear about this. I'm looking forward to this even more than the Lynx card. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arcadegeek23 Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 Super excited for this. I will be waiting for the pre order! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SainT Posted July 5, 2016 Author Share Posted July 5, 2016 Thanks to all the posts and ideas here I've come to a decision on the way forward for supporting a lot of the more exotic ideas without breaking the bank. I've found a nice little microcontroller which supports SPI, UART, USB and I2S in hardware, and still comes in at a good price. I'll also throw in an SPI Ethernet controller chip as well -- again not expensive for the functionality gained. This allows me to route all the Jag communication lines to the microcontroller and do whatever I like with them. So this opens up data streaming for the Jag CD, tunnelling of UART data over TCP/IP (multiplayer over Internet), keyboard / mouse input, usb mass storage support. The list is pretty encompassing of all things useful. The nice thing with all of this is that it can be released with minimal functionality, but as long as the hardware is setup right, a wealth of functionality can be added with firmware updates. I'll open up as much of this as possible for people to mod themselves. 18 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+eebuckeye Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 Really great!! Nice!! Can't wait! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirlynxalot Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 Sounds like an exciting prospect for the jag community, developer and gamer alike. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TXG/MNX Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 What ethernet controller are you planning to use ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtariDean Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 Sounds Awsome , can't wait. Will be really cool if we can play others jags over the net. Some great ideas , allready saving my dollars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SainT Posted July 6, 2016 Author Share Posted July 6, 2016 What ethernet controller are you planning to use ? The ENC28J60 seems to be pretty cheap and well supported by example code all over the net, so that's looking likely. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TXG/MNX Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 The ENC28J60 seems to be pretty cheap and well supported by example code all over the net, so that's looking likely. Hi I read this If you go with an EBC28J60 kind of solution then it is just the very raw electronics with virtually no "intelligence" of its own so you end up having to do all the layers of TCP/IP rightdown to the lowest level driver within the processor itself. Better use the W5100 then you already got the tcp/ip complete it the chip will cost around $25.00 You could release the cart with a socket so people can decide if the want/need the ethernet. https://www.sparkfun.com/products/9473 ' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'> https://www.sparkfun.com/products/9473 This chip is very easy to code so not needed to program a full stack on the Jaguar which would make the ethernet handling much easier and faster because the Jaguar doesn't need to handle all the networking stuff. It also makes your cart design much easier. [emoji4] Sent from UMI hammer with Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SainT Posted July 6, 2016 Author Share Posted July 6, 2016 Hi I read this If you go with an EBC28J60 kind of solution then it is just the very raw electronics with virtually no "intelligence" of its own so you end up having to do all the layers of TCP/IP rightdown to the lowest level driver within the processor itself. Better use the W5100 then you already got the tcp/ip complete it the chip will cost around $25.00 You could release the cart with a socket so people can decide if the want/need the ethernet. https://www.sparkfun.com/products/9473 ' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'> https://www.sparkfun.com/products/9473 This chip is very easy to code so not needed to program a full stack on the Jaguar which would make the ethernet handling much easier and faster because the Jaguar doesn't need to handle all the networking stuff. It also makes your cart design much easier. [emoji4] Sent from UMI hammer with Tapatalk Lol, there are Spectrum 48K machines out there running ENC28J60 solutions for networking! And there is Arduino code out there to drive them also. It's not a problem. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skin-NL Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 Multiplayer over the internet........that sounds awesome!!!!And with the usb port for mouse and keyboard support......This is much more then a sd cartridge.......Great work SainT 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leech Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 This is awesome, been waiting for this (may have to pick up an Atari Lynx again to buy an SD Card adapter for it too!). I do have a question though, I used to use my JagCD all the time for the virtual light machine. Until it stopped reading disks, then I fixed that with a 10 dollar replacement of the laser, but I managed somehow to break the clip to hold the lid down... well, I was wondering if it'd be possible to implement some sort of hack to pipe mp3s through the VLM? That would rock! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leech Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 Multiplayer over the internet........that sounds awesome!!!!And with the usb port for mouse and keyboard support......This is much more then a sd cartridge.......Great work SainT Ha, was always irritated that my brother and I would have to start over in Doom because of the bug where it'd just reset. We were trying to beat the game on Nightmare difficulty, but with it constantly rebooting, we only made it to level 2. While he sold his Jaguar long ago, I still have mine and I think two copies of Doom... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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