edintv Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 Long time without login, Hi to all. I compare with my Spanish manual and they are very different, Looks like Aurimat print their own manuals, not the same as the international spanish ones. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+nanochess Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, edintv said: Long time without login, Hi to all. I compare with my Spanish manual and they are very different, Looks like Aurimat print their own manuals, not the same as the international spanish ones. Thanks for the info! I don't have any manuals from Spain to compare. BTW, just uploaded scans at my website https://nanochess.org/intellivision_mexican_games.html Edited January 28, 2022 by nanochess 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Steve Jones Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 5 hours ago, edintv said: Long time without login, Hi to all. I compare with my Spanish manual and they are very different, Looks like Aurimat print their own manuals, not the same as the international spanish ones. Hi Edintv, welcome back. would you mind posting pics of some of your Spanish manuals, they are quite hard to find online. Also if you have any extras you want to sell please PM me. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edintv Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 The Boxes are the International Standards, with the holes in the back for the Languaje - especific manual. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+cmart604 Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 6 minutes ago, edintv said: The Boxes are the International Standards, with the holes in the back for the Languaje - especific manual. Cool! Some nice ones there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edintv Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 5 hours ago, nanochess said: Thanks for the info! I don't have any manuals from Spain to compare. BTW, just uploaded scans at my website https://nanochess.org/intellivision_mexican_games.html I check with my Copy of Armada Espacial and is the same Translation, only Difference is the Leyends on the back and front Covers 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DZ-Jay Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 1 hour ago, edintv said: The Boxes are the International Standards, with the holes in the back for the Languaje - especific manual. Cool stuff! It's strange that they didn't translate the titles for Star Strike, Lock 'N' Chase, and Astrosmash, but they actually did for Night Stalker and Space Armada. -dZ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edintv Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 2 minutes ago, DZ-Jay said: Cool stuff! It's strange that they didn't translate the titles for Star Strike, Lock 'N' Chase, and Astrosmash, but they actually did for Night Stalker and Space Armada. -dZ. Could be that the translated name is not cool enough in Night stalker the translation is in () so is more an explanation instead of changed title. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DZ-Jay Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, edintv said: Could be that the translated name is not cool enough in Night stalker the translation is in () so is more an explanation instead of changed title. Yeah, but I would have imagine they could have done the same for those others, like "Star Strike (Asalto Estelar)" (or something like that). After all "Cazador Nocturno" is a little bit lame. ? I just found it curious that they didn't even try. Hehehe. -dZ. Edited January 29, 2022 by DZ-Jay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edintv Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 2 minutes ago, DZ-Jay said: Yeah, but I would have imagine they could have done the same for those others, like "Star Strike (Asalto Estelar)" (or something like that). After all "Cazador Nocturno" is a little bit lame. ? I just found it curious that they didn't even try. Hehehe. -dZ. Mattel beign an experienced International toy seller, they must had a Foreign marketing office that could choose how to name toys in other languajes. Night Stalker is hard to pronounce for people unfamiliar with english. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DZ-Jay Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 2 hours ago, edintv said: Mattel beign an experienced International toy seller, they must had a Foreign marketing office that could choose how to name toys in other languajes. Night Stalker is hard to pronounce for people unfamiliar with english. Hmm ... I don't buy that. I don't find it any easier to say "Estar Estraik," but whatever. Perhaps they just didn't bother translating some titles. "Experienced international toy sellers" can be cheapskates sometimes. I guess we'll never know. *shrug* I just found it curious, that's all. -dZ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+intellivotion Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 4 hours ago, edintv said: The Boxes are the International Standards, with the holes in the back for the Languaje - especific manual. very very cool stuff! Damas catches my eye in particular Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edintv Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 9 hours ago, DZ-Jay said: Hmm ... I don't buy that. I don't find it any easier to say "Estar Estraik," but whatever. Perhaps they just didn't bother translating some titles. "Experienced international toy sellers" can be cheapskates sometimes. I guess we'll never know. *shrug* I just found it curious, that's all. -dZ. I do remember having many toys names translated ramdomly, Strawberry Shortcake was "Rosita fresita" but He Man was He man, and had Monopoly (Monopolio) with my country's names. Star Wars was Hilarious, the only name change was r2d2 to "Arturito" did you get that in puerto rico? Anyway Astrosmash is harder to pronounce than Star trike, the should have some reasons (even lazyness) to do so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DZ-Jay Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 2 hours ago, edintv said: I do remember having many toys names translated ramdomly, Strawberry Shortcake was "Rosita fresita" but He Man was He man, and had Monopoly (Monopolio) with my country's names. Star Wars was Hilarious, the only name change was r2d2 to "Arturito" did you get that in puerto rico? Hehe, we had the same in PR. LOL! I do remember "Rosita fresita" and "Arturito," which were hilarious; and we called Star Wars "La guerra de las galaxias," which is a mouthful, and elevates the war to a galactic level. Hehehe. 2 hours ago, edintv said: Anyway Astrosmash is harder to pronounce than Star trike, the should have some reasons (even lazyness) to do so. Nah, I think things like "He Man" and "Astrosmash" are more like high-concept terms which are otherwise meaningless and devoid of context (as opposed to, say, a "star war," which is a literal title). "Rosita fresita" sounds like a nice and cute way to address the translation. "Strawberry Shortcake" is not only of alien pronunciation to Spanish speakers, but mostly unknown to the culture itself -- most (all?) characters having names based on American-centric desserts or treats. "Arturito" is a nice anomaly, since it is as meaningless in itself, but I guess it goes in the spirit of Luke Skywalker calling him "Artoo" instead of a more technical "R2-D2." This is especially curious when compared to C3PO, which in Spanish was left merely as "Ce-tres-pe-o". Heheh. Anyway, I got a kick out of your collection there. Puerto Rico being so "americanized," we mostly didn't get translated merchandise. We always got the English stuff directly, but broken English and Spanglish is part of our culture anyway. -dZ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edintv Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 32 minutes ago, DZ-Jay said: Hehe, we had the same in PR. LOL! I do remember "Rosita fresita" and "Arturito," which were hilarious; and we called Star Wars "La guerra de las galaxias," which is a mouthful, and elevates the war to a galactic level. Hehehe. Nah, I think things like "He Man" and "Astrosmash" are more like high-concept terms which are otherwise meaningless and devoid of context (as opposed to, say, a "star war," which is a literal title). "Rosita fresita" sounds like a nice and cute way to address the translation. "Strawberry Shortcake" is not only of alien pronunciation to Spanish speakers, but mostly unknown to the culture itself -- most (all?) characters having names based on American-centric desserts or treats. "Arturito" is a nice anomaly, since it is as meaningless in itself, but I guess it goes in the spirit of Luke Skywalker calling him "Artoo" instead of a more technical "R2-D2." This is especially curious when compared to C3PO, which in Spanish was left merely as "Ce-tres-pe-o". Heheh. Anyway, I got a kick out of your collection there. Puerto Rico being so "americanized," we mostly didn't get translated merchandise. We always got the English stuff directly, but broken English and Spanglish is part of our culture anyway. -dZ. there's always has been pressure to wipe off spanish in PR, I may remember that spanish was forbidden at some point? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DZ-Jay Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 (edited) 29 minutes ago, edintv said: there's always has been pressure to wipe off spanish in PR, I may remember that spanish was forbidden at some point? Hmm ... That was probably during the colonial days when the US took control of the Island. In the 1970s and 1980s, as far as I remember, Spanish was understood to be the main and common language, with English being something we should co-adopt in order to become more cosmopolitan and increase opportunities. In the end, for better or worse, it's pretty clear across the globe that once people get a taste for, say, McDonalds and Hollywood, there's no limiting factor to accepting other American cultural traits. Personally, I don't mind too much -- I'm as apple-pie, pizza, and burguers-and-fries an American, as much as I am an arroz-y-habichualas, pasteles, alcapurrias y ron Puerto Rican. In any case, sorry to hijack the thread. Let us go back on topic: Are those Spanish manuals for distribution across Latin America, or were they purely for the Mexican market? -dZ. Edited January 29, 2022 by DZ-Jay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edintv Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 Just now, DZ-Jay said: Hmm ... That was probably during the colonial days when the US took control of the Island. In the 1970s and 1980s, as far as I remember, Spanish was understood to be the main and common language, with English being something we should co-adopt in order to become more cosmopolitan and increase opportunities. In the end, for better or worse, it's pretty clear across the globe that once people get a taste for, say, McDonalds and Hollywood, there's no limiting factor to accepting other American cultural traits. Personally, I don't mind too much -- I'm as apple-pie, pizza, and burguers-and-fries an American, as much as I am an arroz-y-habichualas, pasteles, alcapurrias y ron Puerto Rican. In any case, sorry to hijack the thread. Let us go back on topic: Are those Spanish manuals distribution across Latin America, or were they purely for the Mexican market? -dZ. yes, sorry for the hijack, to close the theme, Venezuela has oil and we got a lot of US influence and many local brands have english names and some funny anglicisms. As I understand the ones I have are made for spanish speaking market, for spain and latinamerica (the same holes in the back boxes are for several european markets) none of those came from the famous warehouse. My theory is that the mexican company get some translations already done by mattlel (like Space armada) and make their own like in Astrosmash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edintv Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 Could be they just change the names of the games and inside is the same? I only compared the insides of Space armada. Anyway, these Aurimat variotions are unique and probably only for Mexico. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+nanochess Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 Another 3 games for the Mexican collection: Diversión en Palabras (Word Fun), Combate Astral (Astrosmash), and Poker & Blackjack. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+JasonlikesINTV Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 Ooh, I like that Word Fun. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 Very nice pieces Oscar!!!?? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Steve Jones Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 Oscar I'm curious, are these relatively easy to find living in Mexico? Or are they hard to find there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+nanochess Posted June 24, 2022 Share Posted June 24, 2022 1 hour ago, Steve Jones said: Oscar I'm curious, are these relatively easy to find living in Mexico? Or are they hard to find there? Very hard to find. My previous find was in January, and now it is June, almost 6 months. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+cmart604 Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 17 hours ago, nanochess said: Very hard to find. My previous find was in January, and now it is June, almost 6 months. It feels like maybe you're just being lazy Oscar. ? Try harder please, we need more pics of new games! ? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamikazi26 Posted June 25, 2022 Share Posted June 25, 2022 Maybe there is someone draining that market over there already..? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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