MEtalGuy66 Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 Well.. For pure collector's motivations, I'm not gonna burst your bubble and tell you not to pursue it. Just realize that even when a 1027 printer was brand new and in perfect working order: a) it was slower than death, b) the vertical alignment of each printed character was so eradic due to poor design tolerances that it looked like you typed the document on an old mechanical typewriter with an extremely worn-out mechanism. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gargoyle Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 (edited) Sometimes it's good to bring the dead back to life to live that slow past once again and appreciate what we have today, besides i liked mine despite its shortcomings, cute little, slow and noisy printer with misaligned characters, what's not to love Edited January 20, 2017 by gargoyle 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ransom Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 Sure, and then someone will come up with a fix for the misaligned characters, and someone else will make the buffer bigger, and someone else will make it faster.... it's the way of the classics. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidMil Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 I used to own a business and whenever I needed a formal letter, I used my1027, I never had any misalignment problems, but God you were right about slow and noisy! It used to drive me crazy when it would pause for several minutes and then start back up. My wife wanted me to build a cabinet for it. For bills and other stuff I used my Epson RX80. DavidMil 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gargoyle Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 I never had any misalignment Honestly, I can't remember having misaligned chars either. It was printing just fine as far as i recall. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathy Posted January 20, 2017 Share Posted January 20, 2017 Hello guys Wasn't the Atari 1027 a Seikosha in disguise? (As in: We're probably not the only ones seeking a solution of this problem. And maybe we can learn from what the Seikosha users already tried.) Sincerely Mathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidMil Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 Hello guys Wasn't the Atari 1027 a Seikosha in disguise? (As in: We're probably not the only ones seeking a solution of this problem. And maybe we can learn from what the Seikosha users already tried.) Sincerely Mathy Can you post a picture of it? My memory... well it sucks. I can only remember seeing a couple that looked like Epsons. David Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathy Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 Hello David Sorry, I tried to find a picture using Google but couldn't find one. And I'm not sure what this particular Seikosha was called. Sincerely Mathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidMil Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 Not to worry, Every piece of info I get helps sold the puzzle. If you remember it, please post what you can. Thanks, David Milsop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathy Posted January 21, 2017 Share Posted January 21, 2017 Hello David After more of Dr. Google I'm thinking I mixed up some stuff. The 1027 seems to be a Mannesmann Tally Riteman LQ. The 1029 was the Seikosha in disguise, as was the same as the Commodore MPS-801. Sincerely Mathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilsaluki Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 Man, I miss my 1027. It was great while it lasted. I used it through college. I was a workhorse for me. Love that printer. I would pay $200 for a working, non-deteriorating print wheel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidMil Posted January 23, 2017 Share Posted January 23, 2017 Man, I miss my 1027. It was great while it lasted. I used it through college. I was a workhorse for me. Love that printer. I would pay $200 for a working, non-deteriorating print wheel. Hold on. Myself and at least one other person is working on it. David Milsop 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
venom4728a Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 This project is very cool, I have 2 or 3 1027 printers, I would be interested in purchasing new parts to get them working again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Lange Posted January 24, 2017 Share Posted January 24, 2017 I'd better start cleaning that stinky sticky goo out of my 1027 just in case this project comes to fruition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gargoyle Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 Would these guys be of help?http://tgimpactprinters.com/mannesmann-tally/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidMil Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 Would these guys be of help? http://tgimpactprinters.com/mannesmann-tally/ I sent them an email Monday. I haven't heard anything back yet. I've been sending follow up emails about two days later. I'll send them a second one tomorrow. The last thing is to call. David Milsop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidMil Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Well. so far I've sent six requests to companies that make custom rubber stamps including movable date stamps. Three have said they are not interested and three never bothered to return my emails. I still have three more to go then I'm going to contact some of the rubber injection mold companies. And gargoyle, http://tgimpactprint...nnesmann-tally/ never did respond to either email. I may call them Monday. David Milsop 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefan Both Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 Well. so far I've sent six requests to companies that make custom rubber stamps including movable date stamps. Three have said they are not interested and three never bothered to return my emails. I still have three more to go then I'm going to contact some of the rubber injection mold David Milsop That is understandable.All the companies have to earn money. An injection mold is very expensiv. It would become profitable if you'd sell hundreds of wheels for a reasonable price. Regarding the laser-rubber-stamp based method, it is almost the same. Unless you figured out, how many pulses per inch by how much power, you produce rubbish instead of rubber . You'll need at least a whole day with the laser and the operator. Even if the result looks good, it doesn't mean it will work on the first try. But- if YOU ARE the operator of the laser, then things look different. However, since I changed my profession, I have no access to a CO2Laser anymore. Maybe the situation will change, because the company considered to buy a laser for a special production process. But still difficult, to snap time while the laser is not in use by the company. Stefan 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Lange Posted February 28, 2017 Share Posted February 28, 2017 How is this project moving along .... ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidMil Posted March 1, 2017 Share Posted March 1, 2017 I've made a good casting of the print wheel itself, but when I used belt dressing on the rubber part of the print head (the part with all the characters) the rubber quickly dissolved and turned to a thick black goo. So much for that good idea. I haven't talked to Stefan in a while so I'm not sure how he's coming along with the CO2 laser, but we both agree on a first guess hardness for the rubber. Stefan also sent me some very detail drawings of the surface of the rubber printhead. I've been talking to a company called: Alumilite (www.alumilite.com) about making a two part aluminum resin mold. They also have silicon resin mixtures that can be made in varying harnesses from shore 30 (about the feel and flexibility of human skin) to shore 80 (almost a hard a car tire). David 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_The Doctor__ Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 (edited) please tell us the belt dressing you used so no one uses that brand and ruins their printer... something isn't right if the dressing melted the band... in fact I will ask that all reference to it be removed from the forums if newer dressings destroy rather than preserve the bands! That's insane..... I will try some armor all vinyl restorer and protectant and see if that harms it..... I have used vcr-belt dressings and some ancient auto belt dressings for years on these.... Please inform what you used that melted your bands maybe all new auto products are harmful.... Edited March 3, 2017 by _The Doctor__ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevymad Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 Most current automotive belt dressings i've seen are basically nothing more then contact cement. As an aside, never use the stuff on a serpentine belt unless you like lots of noise. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_The Doctor__ Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 (edited) looks like times change now I must find all those posts and ask to delete or edit them.... I don't want any bad things happening.... indeed the belts of today are made of edpm and the dressing/conditioners have changed as well.... it will over soften older compounds and destroy them.... I have never soaked anything even with the older dressings just got things damp and wiped them off and then went about printing.... but the new stuff is designed for totally different materials today...... so my 50 year old can of dressing is done.... and no one carries any of the old dressings.... in fact a few of them are considered hazardous and were pulled from shelves 16 years or so ago..... this leaves me with one last hope.... mineral oil..... thats right good ole mineral oil... not spirits..... I will give it a shot..... looks like I will be joining the ranks of the 1027 less if I can't find a substitute or we can get replacement bands.. sad day indeed.... keeping everything well lubricated is key so he has good advise.... I read the part about boiling the stamp.... I am going to experiment with mineral oil..... perhaps a hot mineral oil bath..... it seems reasonable.... Edited March 4, 2017 by _The Doctor__ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidMil Posted March 5, 2017 Share Posted March 5, 2017 please tell us the belt dressing you used so no one uses that brand and ruins their printer... something isn't right if the dressing melted the band... in fact I will ask that all reference to it be removed from the forums if newer dressings destroy rather than preserve the bands! That's insane..... I will try some armor all vinyl restorer and protectant and see if that harms it..... I have used vcr-belt dressings and some ancient auto belt dressings for years on these.... Please inform what you used that melted your bands maybe all new auto products are harmful.... Well, I have no one to blame but myself for my latest fiasco. Yes the belt dressing is at least 10 years old, and it says in VERY small print on the bottom of the label, "this product contains petroleum distillates and should not be used on products containing silicon rubber". By the way the belt dressing is from 3M. Sigh... One of these days I'm going to start listening to my wife who is always saying, "Don't you want to read the directions first?" But being a guy (and an old grumpy one at that)... well you know how it is. David Milsop 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidMil Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 Thanks to Brad at Best Electronics (he dug through many ruined printer heads till he came across a (mostly) good one. The characters are still well formed and fairly solid. The alpha numeric characters that had fallen off have now been glued back on and I'm going to try and make a casting of it tomorrow. The 1027 shall live again! (I hope)... David Milsop 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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