Jackel192 Posted September 12, 2017 Share Posted September 12, 2017 I actually was wondering if it was possible to turn the text upside down if a pirate tries to brute force my program? or force him to write in Hex. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Stephen Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Awwww, man; these replies are NOT what I expected from a thread titled "screwing with pirates", sigh.... Conquest.jpg Oh how I miss the Jenna Jameson of old. Not the old Jenna Jameson. I am not even going to post a picture, with the hopes of not destroying someone's lifetime fantasy. Do not google it - you've been warned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Stephen Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 I actually was wondering if it was possible to turn the text upside down if a pirate tries to brute force my program? or force him to write in Hex. Actually, there is a single poke on the Atari which will turn the text upside down: POKE 755,4 Also, you can really fuck with people by changing the OS location of the keyboard decode table. I'll leave that one for you to Google. Basically, it makes any key you hit return a random (but consistent) other key. Excellent fun. Think QWERTY to DVORAK on steroids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMR Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 I actually was wondering if it was possible to turn the text upside down if a pirate tries to brute force my program? The first step is figuring out how to actually detect an attack, if that can't be done consistently and with a reasonable degree of accuracy - just imagine a protection scheme that fell over on certain models of machine for example - then whatever you decide to do as a response is useless. or force him to write in Hex. Yeah, because crackers would struggle to work in hexadecimal... and do i need to put a sarcasm tag here? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heaven/TQA Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 what the hell is this thread about? waver hackers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMR Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 what the hell is this thread about? waver hackers? It's a bit hard to crack something that hasn't actually been implemented... =-) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlsson Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Yeah, vaporware tends to have one of the best kinds of copy protection. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Good_Times Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 what the hell is this thread about? Pirate sex ? (shrug) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fujidude Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Yeah, vaporware tends to have one of the best kinds of copy protection. That and software which was written but never released by the developer. I know because I have made such programs and they have not been pirated at all! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackel192 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 (edited) what I want to do I write a dummy program that can be easily pirated but as soon as its loaded, the text turns upside down and it freezes. an example would be to make a game for Sega cd, save it as a zip, post it to the pirate bay or some other P2P site and when its run, the text becomes corrupted and the file freezes. if its copied to an actual cd, the system's data becomes corrupted. (that last one seems unlikely) Edited September 14, 2017 by Jackel192 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPUWIZ Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Bath salts? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Good_Times Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 what I want to do I write a dummy program that can be easily pirated but as soon as its loaded, the text turns upside down and it freezes. an example would be to make a game for Sega cd, save it as a zip, post it to the pirate bay or some other P2P site and when its run, the text becomes corrupted and the file freezes. if its copied to an actual cd, the system's data becomes corrupted. (that last one seems unlikely) Why? Call it speculative, but I'm going to assume that you don't get out much. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMR Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 (edited) what I want to do I write a dummy program that can be easily pirated but as soon as its loaded, the text turns upside down and it freezes. LDA #4 STA 755 JMP * There, that turns the text upside down and freezes. It's also utterly pointless and you're basically wasting your own time as much as the people you're trying to upset. (Slight edit because i can't remember if A8 assemblers support JMP * - using a DTA $02 or whatever your assembler of choice supports will work better now i think about it...) an example would be to make a game for Sega cd, save it as a zip, post it to the pirate bay or some other P2P site and when its run, the text becomes corrupted and the file freezes. if its copied to an actual cd, the system's data becomes corrupted. (that last one seems unlikely) So basically you want to be a dick. Why? What exactly are you personally getting out of that!? Edited September 14, 2017 by TMR 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlsson Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 If this is attempt to launch a train for thought, it seems the train has already left the station. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMR Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 If this is attempt to launch a train for thought, it seems the train has already left the station. And for some bizarre reason i'm a distance up the track trying to change the points before it goes hurtling past and into a ravine... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Good_Times Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 And for some bizarre reason i'm a distance up the track trying to change the points before it goes hurtling past and into a ravine... Too late.... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackel192 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 (edited) LDA #4 STA 755 JMP * There, that turns the text upside down and freezes. It's also utterly pointless and you're basically wasting your own time as much as the people you're trying to upset. (Slight edit because i can't remember if A8 assemblers support JMP * - using a DTA $02 or whatever your assembler of choice supports will work better now i think about it...) So basically you want to be a dick. Why? What exactly are you personally getting out of that Edited September 14, 2017 by Jackel192 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackel192 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 (edited) @TMR this thread was simply about an experiment I wanted to do. there's no need to be rude Edited September 14, 2017 by Jackel192 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashjazzcat Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 @TMR this thread was simply about an experiment I wanted to do. there's no need to be rude Are you trying to tell us that you're also the OP? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMR Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 @TMR this thread was simply about an experiment I wanted to do. there's no need to be rude So you want to create a program that "if its copied to an actual cd, the system's data becomes corrupted" as an "experiment" and, somehow, i'm the one being rude here? Really?! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Good_Times Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Malicious dickishness/intentional property damage = "Experiment"! It's all in FUN, guys, just like that time I 'borrowed' my friend's new sedan and played a 'prank' with it -- HIGH-larious!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlsson Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Are you trying to tell us that you're also the OP? Honestly, it only took me a few posts to identify already last week that Jackel192 either is a reincarnation of 2600problems, or a perfect copycat. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+remowilliams Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Can one of the mods try one of those experiments that may result in the loss of account access? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPUWIZ Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Can one of the mods try one of those experiments that may result in the loss of account access? Way ahead of you, Al had to go out to run some errands. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanny Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 Honestly, it only took me a few posts to identify already last week that Jackel192 either is a reincarnation of 2600problems, or a perfect copycat. I've got a similar impression.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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