sparkdrummer Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 I wonder if I could get one of the Software/Hardware Gurus here to have a look a HARDBACK on this dsk. sssd.dsk I always preferred using it to back up my MFM hard drives with the HFDC. When I load it and try to have it look at my SCSI drives after the initial Source Drive (1) and Copy drive (3) It sets an error of: HARD DEVICE ERROR Can anybody have a look and see if it will play happy with a WHT SCSI card? Thanks The old phart in phoenix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+mizapf Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 Actually, I'm not really optimistic that a HFDC program works with SCSI. It already starts with different device names (like SCS1 vs. WDS1), and if the authors used direct access to the controller, this quickly becomes impossible. Unfortunately, I still don't have a SCSI emulation in MAME, so I cannot test it. (I have a real ASCSI card, but this would probably deliver the same output.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparkdrummer Posted May 8, 2017 Author Share Posted May 8, 2017 I use Myarcs MDM5 with my SCSI and it seems to work fine when accessing the drives. It searches for wds instead of scs and it does find the drives - up to 3. About the only thing that doesn't work is the mdm5 backup, which is ok because I think it takes way too long. That's why I used hardback Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atrax27407 Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 The HRD16 backup program was originally set up for SCS1. The "fix" was simple. Since both SCS1 and WDS1 have the same number of characters and it isn't necessary to change the length byte for the drive designation, the answer was to use a sector editor and change SCS1 to WDS1 (or in your case the reverse). It worked successfully for me for many years until I got rid of my HFDC. It might be worth a try! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparkdrummer Posted May 8, 2017 Author Share Posted May 8, 2017 I have not heard of the HRD16 program. Any idea where one might get it? I liked using hardback because you could select which directories,etc you wished to back up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+InsaneMultitasker Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 Are you using Hardback with a TI or Geneve? If using with a Geneve, you will need to enable ROMPAGE for access to the SCSI card's EPROM. Regardless of the system, use "WDSx" not "SCSx". The former is there for backwards compatibility and usually (thought not always) works. (The IDE and HDX cards have different low level IO subprogram numbers and require some additional changes to programs that are coded for the HFDC/SCSI DSRs). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparkdrummer Posted May 8, 2017 Author Share Posted May 8, 2017 Tim I am attempting to use hardback with a ti system. The program defaults to wds(?) for source and copy drive. Once selected that's when it gives me hard device error. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+mizapf Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 I suppose you are using a real SCSI hard drive. Since I have the SCSI2SD adapter, my preferred way of backing up is to put the SD card in a card reader and dump it on the PC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atrax27407 Posted May 8, 2017 Share Posted May 8, 2017 The HRD15SAV program is on the SNUG website. Send me a PM and I'll send you a copy. See if the sector edit of HARDBACK works - it worked for HRD16SAV! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparkdrummer Posted May 8, 2017 Author Share Posted May 8, 2017 Yes, I am using a scsi2sd as well and I have backed it up using Tidir on my pc. I would like to use hardback as a backup if it can be made to work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atrax27407 Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 Try this HARDBACK version, I don't have a SCSI drive so it is untested. HARDBACK.dsk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atrax27407 Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 Here;s one that "should" copy from WDS1 to SCS1. Again, untested. HARDBACK2.dsk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparkdrummer Posted May 9, 2017 Author Share Posted May 9, 2017 (edited) Thanks atrax27407 - I tried both and they both gave HARD DEVICE ERROR. I found the SNUG site and downloaded the HRD16SAV file and at first whiff looks like it could work. I was able to do a directory of SCS1 and dig down as well. I need to check out the docs so I know how to use it properly. Thanks again - This may indeed work. I still wonder why HARDBACK won't though? Edited May 9, 2017 by sparkdrummer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+InsaneMultitasker Posted May 14, 2017 Share Posted May 14, 2017 I've tried to run the hardback program on the disk image you attacked and it locks up my system before displaying anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparkdrummer Posted May 14, 2017 Author Share Posted May 14, 2017 The one I uploaded Tim? Btw- hrd16sav would not work either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+InsaneMultitasker Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 The one I uploaded Tim? Btw- hrd16sav would not work either. Yes, the one you uploaded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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