Swami Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 Just curious. If I plugged a Tototek SNES to Playstation 2 adapter into the SNES port of the Phoenix, could I use a PS2 dual shock with it? http://www.tototek.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=53 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retroillucid Posted August 27, 2018 Author Share Posted August 27, 2018 Couldn't you also connect the CV Power Supply to the Roller Controller and then the cables to the joystick ports like we do on a CV.... just no CV of coarse. Yeah, I guess one can do that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Gemintronic Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 Just curious. If I plugged a Tototek SNES to Playstation 2 adapter into the SNES port of the Phoenix, could I use a PS2 dual shock with it? http://www.tototek.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=53 I've had varying success with Tototek adapters. I love that they exist but they can't test it against every make and model of console. So, it should work. But, us Tototek adapter owners will have to see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bmack36 Posted August 27, 2018 Share Posted August 27, 2018 Yeah, I guess one can do that Only issue is You might need a common ground. I haven't looked over the schematics in detail. The steering wheel doesn't need it as it can be powered from batteries. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swami Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 I've had varying success with Tototek adapters. I love that they exist but they can't test it against every make and model of console. So, it should work. But, us Tototek adapter owners will have to see I know they can do better. I have a PS2 to Amiga adapter that blows the Tototek PS2 to Genesis away, but you don't see too many options for almost all console-to-console adapters out there and rarely know what you will get. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtariBrian Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 Here's a sneak peak of some of the built-in digital games included with the CollectorVision Phoenix Video Game System Even more to come! https://collectorvision.com/…/colec…/colecovision-hd-system/ Hopefully we will see Side Trak added Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPR Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 While I think it's great that the list already looks amazing and apparently it will continue to grow, please be sure to keep as many titles as you can limited to cartridge releases in your store so we can continue to repay you for your generosity by buying more CIB homebrews! You're already including 10 games, which is at least a $500 value based on the store prices. And for that I thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retroillucid Posted August 28, 2018 Author Share Posted August 28, 2018 While I think it's great that the list already looks amazing and apparently it will continue to grow, please be sure to keep as many titles as you can limited to cartridge releases in your store so we can continue to repay you for your generosity by buying more CIB homebrews! You're already including 10 games, which is at least a $500 value based on the store prices. And for that I thank you! No worries, we do have plenty of other projects going on 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retroillucid Posted August 31, 2018 Author Share Posted August 31, 2018 A more updated look of the Phoenix 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPR Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 A more updated look of the Phoenix It's CUTE!!! And I mean that is the best most appreciative complimentary way possible! I cannot help to think the more I look at those images that this is more what I expected the CV Flashback to look like, and how this project is pretty much exactly what I wanted the Flashback to be! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retroillucid Posted August 31, 2018 Author Share Posted August 31, 2018 this is more what I expected the CV Flashback to look like, and how this project is pretty much exactly what I wanted the Flashback to be! Exactly my thoughts, I was expecting way more from the Flashback.... :/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixelboy Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 And that Super-NES controller port is a nice bonus too. With that, I'll be able to play any game with my Super-NES NTT gamepad. There's one thing that just occurred to me: Finding 100% functional PS2 keyboards in the wild is getting to be as hard as finding fully functional original ColecoVision consoles, and even if you find one, there's no telling how long it will last (broken shift keys, anyone?). T'would be nice to have a brand new PS2 keyboard (or maybe even a PS2 mouse!) to plug into the PS2 port on the Phoenix. I suppose there are schematics online (and even sourceable parts) to make brand new PS2 keyboards. I know at least one place online that manufactures custom keyboards, too bad they only do USB. EDIT: Found an interesting place here but I don't know if all the keyboards they offer can be hardwired with a PS2 cable. It's not totally clear and trustable from the way their website product search engine works. They offer nice extra stuff like trackballs though, but I'm not sure if such extras are PS2-compatible. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retroillucid Posted August 31, 2018 Author Share Posted August 31, 2018 And that Super-NES controller port is a nice bonus too. With that, I'll be able to play any game with my Super-NES NTT gamepad. There's one thing that just occurred to me: Finding 100% functional PS2 keyboards in the wild is getting to be as hard as finding fully functional original ColecoVision consoles, and even if you find one, there's no telling how long it will last (broken shift keys, anyone?). T'would be nice to have a brand new PS2 keyboard (or maybe even a PS2 mouse!) to plug into the PS2 port on the Phoenix. I suppose there are schematics online (and even sourceable parts) to make brand new PS2 keyboards. I know at least one place online that manufactures custom keyboards, too bad they only do USB. It's not that hard to find a brand new PS2 keyboard nowadays You can also use a USB to PS2 adapter if your keyboard is supporting it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixelboy Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 It's not that hard to find a brand new PS2 keyboard nowadays You can also use a USB to PS2 adapter if your keyboard is supporting it Yeah, but it would be nice to have something that's tailored for the Phoenix. See the link I added in my previous post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikrananka Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 (edited) I've been specifically hanging onto an old Microsoft media PS2 keyboard that I had intended getting rid of. It was working perfectly, but my last two computers didn't have PS2 ports and so I had to get a new keyboard. So, I've stored my PS2 keyboard away safely in the hope that I can use it with the Phoenix. This leads me on to the question of what region/language/layout PS2 keyboards will be supported by the Phoenix? Edited August 31, 2018 by Ikrananka Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDTV1080P Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 (edited) The system designers decided not to do USB ports in order to make the system cheaper. I hope this system well support the PS/2 Y adapter so that a PS/2 keyboard and trackball can be used at the exact same time. https://www.amazon.com/StarTech-Keyboard-Splitter-Adapter-KYC1MF/dp/B000067SLZ Edited August 31, 2018 by HDTV1080P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPR Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 The system designers decided not to do USB ports in order to make the system cheaper. I hope this system well support the PS/2 Y adapter so that a PS/2 keyboard and trackball can be used at the exact same time. https://www.amazon.com/StarTech-Keyboard-Splitter-Adapter-KYC1MF/dp/B000067SLZ Would a non-Roller Controller Trackball even work with this system? I was under the impression that the PS/2 port was just for a keyboard, not anything else like a mouse/trackball/controller. That's what the DB-9 and the SNES controller ports are for. Or am I understanding that incorrectly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bmack36 Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 The system designers decided not to do USB ports in order to make the system cheaper. I hope this system well support the PS/2 Y adapter so that a PS/2 keyboard and trackball can be used at the exact same time. https://www.amazon.com/StarTech-Keyboard-Splitter-Adapter-KYC1MF/dp/B000067SLZ The PS/2 Port is only a single PS/2 implementation so splitters will not work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bmack36 Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 EDIT: Found an interesting place here but I don't know if all the keyboards they offer can be hardwired with a PS2 cable. It's not totally clear and trustable from the way their website product search engine works. They offer nice extra stuff like trackballs though, but I'm not sure if such extras are PS2-compatible. If you click on products you can actually filter by connector type with PS2 as one of the options Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bmack36 Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 Yeah, but it would be nice to have something that's tailored for the Phoenix. See the link I added in my previous post. I just checked the prices on amazon. Wow..... those things are like 300 to 1000 dollars Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixelboy Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 I just checked the prices on amazon. Wow..... those things are like 300 to 1000 dollars Yowser! And all the keyboards with integrated trackballs I've seen seem to be limited to three buttons. Must be a standard limit. But yeah, way too expensive! I looked around just for fun, and even just the main trackball component (for those who would like to build a custom trackball controller) is rather expensive, especially if you're looking for one with a big ball. Most people would be better off just using a PS/2 mouse, even if it doesn't really replicate the trackball experience. I like this trackball, but at the given price it's not super interesting, although if someone ordered over 100 of them, the unit price would probably come down to around 150$, which wouldn't be too bad assuming the Phoenix would support it properly. I'm day-dreaming, of course. Paying 150$ just to play Slither and Victory on a brand new trackball doesn't make much sense. Again, a PS/2 mouse would do just fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDTV1080P Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 (edited) Would a non-Roller Controller Trackball even work with this system? I was under the impression that the PS/2 port was just for a keyboard, not anything else like a mouse/trackball/controller. That's what the DB-9 and the SNES controller ports are for. Or am I understanding that incorrectly? There are some older computers that are 15+ years old that have two PS/2 ports. One port for PS/2 keyboard and one port for PS/2 mouse or Logitech trackball. On some newer computers from 2015 including some Laptops there is only one PS/2 port and that PS/2 is designed to accept a PS/2 Y adapter. However all new 2018+ computers are USB for keyboard and mouse devices with no more PS/2 port on the motherboard. Edited September 1, 2018 by HDTV1080P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDTV1080P Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 (edited) The PS/2 Port is only a single PS/2 implementation so splitters will not work. Thanks for the information regarding PS/2 Y splitters are not compatible with the CollectorVision motherboard. Now hopefully the one and only PS/2 port well allow one to unplug the PS/2 keyboard and plug in a Logitech marble mouse to the PS/2 port for those programmers that decide to make special games that need a trackball. Or maybe that PS/2 port well only except a PS/2 keyboard since the wiring for a PS/2 mouse/trackball might be different. Edited September 1, 2018 by HDTV1080P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retroillucid Posted September 1, 2018 Author Share Posted September 1, 2018 Thanks for the information regarding PS/2 Y splitters are not compatible with the CollectorVision motherboard. Now hopefully the one and only PS/2 port well allow one to unplug the PS/2 keyboard and plug in a Logitech marble mouse to the PS/2 port for those programmers that decide to make special games that need a trackball. Or maybe that PS/2 port well only except a PS/2 keyboard since the wiring for a PS/2 mouse/trackball might be different. You guys are focussing way too much on the PS2 port We do have a working spinner prototype working for quite awhile now, and we're planning to have a trackball at some point The idea is to have an all in one solution, and I would want to work with Edladdin on this all-in-1 arcade controller Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDTV1080P Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 (edited) Yowser! And all the keyboards with integrated trackballs I've seen seem to be limited to three buttons. Must be a standard limit. But yeah, way too expensive! I looked around just for fun, and even just the main trackball component (for those who would like to build a custom trackball controller) is rather expensive, especially if you're looking for one with a big ball. Most people would be better off just using a PS/2 mouse, even if it doesn't really replicate the trackball experience. I like this trackball, but at the given price it's not super interesting, although if someone ordered over 100 of them, the unit price would probably come down to around 150$, which wouldn't be too bad assuming the Phoenix would support it properly. I'm day-dreaming, of course. Paying 150$ just to play Slither and Victory on a brand new trackball doesn't make much sense. Again, a PS/2 mouse would do just fine. For over 15 years I and my family members have been using the Logitech Marble Mouse trackball device with all their desktop and Laptop computers. It costs under $25 at Walmart and is 100% compatible with PS/2 motherboards with an optional $1+ USB to PS/2 adapter. Using a ColecoVision emulator on a Windows PC in roller controller mode, the Logitech Marble Mouse works much better when compated to the Coleco roller controller while playing the Slither game. Also I have never seen a Logitech Marble mouse break and they work perfectly after 15+ years. Very reliable product that in theory can last a lifetime. https://www.walmart.com/ip/Logitech-Trackman-Marble-Mouse-Four-Button-Programmable-Dark-Gray/49839188?wmlspartner=wmtlabs&adid=22222222222037337730&wmlspartner=wmtlabs&wl0=e&wl1=o&wl2=c&wl3=10360206094&wl4=pla-4578022834053813&wl5=&wl6=&wl7=&%20wl10=Walmart&wl12=49839188_10000000948&wl14=marble%20mouse&veh=sem&msclkid=eea5717a8f3e17a170b02af3547257a0 Edited September 1, 2018 by HDTV1080P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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