+PlaysWithWolves #22251 Posted October 15 The Verge did a write-up on Wyatt's Gameboard-1. Inside is an interesting reminder box: Quote A note on crowdfunding: Crowdfunding is a chaotic field by nature: companies looking for funding tend to make big promises. According to a study run by Kickstarter in 2015, roughly 1 in 10 “successful” products that reach their funding goals fail to actually deliver rewards. Of the ones that do deliver, delays, missed deadlines, or overpromised ideas mean that there’s often disappointment in store for those products that do get done. The best defense is to use your best judgment. Ask yourself: does the product look legitimate? Is the company making outlandish claims? Is there a working prototype? Does the company mention existing plans to manufacture and ship finished products? Has it completed a Kickstarter before? And remember: you’re not necessarily buying a product when you back it on a crowdfunding site. Lessons learned? Or brief moment of lucidity? 7 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Inky #22252 Posted October 15 (edited) 14 hours ago, frankodragon said: Others already did months ago. 12 hours ago, godslabrat said: Exactly how is "Let's see you make a console!" a great comeback if the key criticism is that literally any moron can make an identical unit with $50 in parts? 12 hours ago, DurradonXylles said: Anyone can make a "VCS" that's comparable in retro game compatibility with little more than a Raspberry Pi 4 or similarly spec'd single board computers, micro SD card loaded with RetroPie or Lakka, and one of several options for Atari 2600 Pi cases that can be bought premade/pre-printed or be 3D printed yourself. Also, assuming Rob here is speaking to us directly on this thread as well as responding to criticism on Facebook: we literally have a number of industry veterans who have been observing the hilarious shitshow Atari's been putting on for us, as well as our snark at their expense, or are directly contributing to the peanut gallery chatter. We even have a few people who have worked on/are currently working on hardware, including Tommy Tallarico, leader of Intellivision Entertainment and leading the development of the Intellivision Amico, and Curt Vendel, who designed, among other things, the Atari Flashback 2 (the only Atari PNP console that's a true hardware clone of the 2600) under contract by another era of Atari that actually gave a damn about their heritage. Some of us trolls have actually made hardware that can run games a helluva lot better than Atari's smoke and mirrors, one way or another. But, no, no, Atari will certainly blow all of us away with their Tacobox running a modified version of Debian, or one of its forked distros, that's far less optimized for gaming or feature rich than Steam OS or even Ubuntu. That's even assuming the console will launch at all. Don't worry... We'll wait. If you make a console, they'll move the goalposts. "Ohh. Nice console, but it's not a success like the VCS will be!" That's how cultists work. I once got into an argument with a user here who said that the arcade game Tempest wasn't a success. His argument? There was no arcade sequel. I provided stat after stat on units shipped, money made, critical consensus, but nope, this one held onto his belief that "No sequel, it's not a success." Edited October 15 by Inky 8 6 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Inky #22253 Posted October 15 13 hours ago, Shaggy the Atarian said: Every time I see that "Ataribawx" sticker, I imagine the new Atari VCS mascot: Chicken tacos, obviously OK, I just thought of this. 1 10 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DurradonXylles #22254 Posted October 15 23 minutes ago, Inky said: If you make a console, they'll move the goalposts. "Ohh. Nice console, but it's not a success like the VCS will be!" That's how cultists work. I once got into an argument with a user here who said that the arcade game Tempest wasn't a success. His argument? There was no arcade sequel. I provided stat after stat on units shipped, money made, critical consensus, but nope, this one held onto his belief that "No sequel, it's not a success." Figured as much, we are talking about a hardcore, die hard AtacoBox believer, after all. It's kinda funny he's attempting to support "Atari" when he doesn't want to acknowledge the original company's success, but anything to keep convincing himself that he didn't potentially throw hundreds of dollars of his hard earned money into a furnace, right? 6 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+digdugnate #22255 Posted October 15 2 hours ago, Inky said: OK, I just thought of this. I LOVE Space Ghost Coast 2 Coast. 🙂 6 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cybercylon #22256 Posted October 15 5 hours ago, Woulfe said: Lets see... Rasberry Pi - Well it depends on what model you get - Zero can be as low as $5.00 Case for the Pi - $8.00 - well, unless you want it to look like an olde skool 2600, that might cost a little bit more SD mini / micro card - $20.00 - This might cost less depending on MB / GB size you want Mini Keyboard - $15.00 Small LED screen - if you don't want to plug it into a TV or whatever have you - $7.00 All slightly over $50.00 Still a hella lot cheaper then the VCS, even if you toss in things like an OS for the Pi & RetroPi to play olde skool games, you still aren't paying a whole lot Well, not as much as for the VCS itself that's for certain, and anyone who's ever put together a computer can do this, there's your 'console' VCS fanbois Put that in yer pipe & smoke it P.S. ( as long as we're using STYX videos ) For less than the Atacobox, you could get parts for a Mister setup with money to spare and actually learn something in the process. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Inky #22257 Posted October 15 16 minutes ago, digdugnate said: I LOVE Space Ghost Coast 2 Coast. 🙂 Actually, that's from the spinoff, The Brak Show 8 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phantom_of_Krankor #22258 Posted October 15 One of my favorite SGCTC episodes. https://binged.it/35zt20o 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Inky #22259 Posted October 15 1 minute ago, Phantom_of_Krankor said: One of my favorite SGCTC episodes. https://binged.it/35zt20o Oooh! THey have one of my favorites, Kentucky Nightmare! " So now there's a liquor store involved!" Actually, that would explain a LOT about the Atacobox 6 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phantom_of_Krankor #22260 Posted October 15 4 minutes ago, Inky said: Oooh! THey have one of my favorites, Kentucky Nightmare! " So now there's a liquor store involved!" Actually, that would explain a LOT about the Atacobox Didn't see that one was there, but now I must watch it. Another classic. 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Inky #22261 Posted October 15 (edited) 2 hours ago, Inky said: Oooh! THey have one of my favorites, Kentucky Nightmare! " So now there's a liquor store involved!" Actually, that would explain a LOT about the Atacobox https://binged.it/2J8fSy3 Space Ghost: In the heat of conversation, Zorak, I may have said certain things that I don't believe to be true... Zorak: So... You lied. Space Ghost: The alleged lie that you might have heard.. me saying.. allegedly moments ago.. That's a parasite that lives in my neck. Adult Swim predicting the Atacobox? Edited October 15 by Inky 2 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
racerx #22263 Posted October 15 Did I miss something, or did the Atari men in black sterilize the "official" subreddit? 1 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pacman000 #22264 Posted October 15 13 hours ago, frankodragon said: "Atari"- In a nutshell. Good song, but not entirely relevant. It's a cautionary tale, nothing that fame & fortune won't solve all your problems. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+digdugnate #22265 Posted October 15 27 minutes ago, racerx said: Did I miss something, or did the Atari men in black sterilize the "official" subreddit? Click 'new' and you'll see the recent stuff. It's still there 🙂 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Inky #22267 Posted October 15 1 hour ago, GoldLeader said: GENTLEMEN.. TACO ISLAND! 5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+frankodragon #22268 Posted October 15 There might be no village sandwich shop, but there sure is a taco shop! 6 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eltigro #22269 Posted October 15 I used to have a Brak sticker on my truck... it used to get comments all the time. One time, there was even a note on my windshield saying they liked it. This was back in the late 90's if I remember correctly. And I don't think the note mentioned tacos or boxes. So perhaps this isn't exactly on topic. 1 5 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tommy Tallarico #22270 Posted October 16 On 10/14/2019 at 5:49 PM, DurradonXylles said: Anyone can make a "VCS" that's comparable in retro game compatibility with little more than a Raspberry Pi 4 or similarly spec'd single board computers, micro SD card loaded with RetroPie or Lakka, and one of several options for Atari 2600 Pi cases that can be bought premade/pre-printed or be 3D printed yourself. Also, assuming Rob here is speaking to us directly on this thread as well as responding to criticism on Facebook: we literally have a number of industry veterans who have been observing the hilarious shitshow Atari's been putting on for us, as well as our snark at their expense, or are directly contributing to the peanut gallery chatter. We even have a few people who have worked on/are currently working on hardware, including Tommy Tallarico, leader of Intellivision Entertainment and leading the development of the Intellivision Amico, and Curt Vendel, who designed, among other things, the Atari Flashback 2 (the only Atari PNP console that's a true hardware clone of the 2600) under contract by another era of Atari that actually gave a damn about their heritage. Some of us trolls have actually made hardware that can run games a helluva lot better than Atari's smoke and mirrors, one way or another. But, no, no, Atari will certainly blow all of us away with their Tacobox running a modified version of Debian, or one of its forked distros, that's far less optimized for gaming or feature rich than Steam OS or even Ubuntu. That's even assuming the console will launch at all. Don't worry... We'll wait. I accept Robert's challenge. 4 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
S1500 #22271 Posted October 16 I thought there was going to be a discussion on one of the developers that just jumped ship, but looking at the 10000 pictures and videos for the last few pages, I was wrong. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+frankodragon #22272 Posted October 16 There are still some of those that think the new Atari is the old one: 4 2 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DurradonXylles #22273 Posted October 16 (edited) 2 hours ago, S1500 said: I thought there was going to be a discussion on one of the developers that just jumped ship, but looking at the 10000 pictures and videos for the last few pages, I was wrong. Unless someone else significant fell off of the project within the last day, we've already said about as much as we could about Rob Wyatt and his departure from the VCS project about fifteen pages back when the "unsubstantiated rumors" started getting confirmed by the Register as not-so-unsubstantiated (with Atari confirming soon after in protest). This thread tends to shitpost a lot between El Reg exposés, Atari's glittery, overly written Medium articles, and the dumpster fires started by their social media/reddit convos. We entertain ourselves because the iterations of Atari most of us grew up with and enjoyed has long since died, with the current corporate leadership seeing the brand and its heritage as gateways to funnel money from potential Ponzi schemes and one arm bandit conversions of old licenses (though, to be fair, everything under the sun has slot/pachinko conversions, and Konami was already doing that shit years prior); we're playing Statler and Waldorf to the Muppet Show Atari SA is putting on, and enjoying every minute of it. Edited October 16 by DurradonXylles 11 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
+PlaysWithWolves #22275 Posted October 16 7 hours ago, S1500 said: I thought there was going to be a discussion on one of the developers that just jumped ship, but looking at the 10000 pictures and videos for the last few pages, I was wrong. There wasn't really much to say The medium.com post confirmed what a couple posters here said days before about Atari being 6-12 months away from production, with proper testing. The non-payment news fit in with failing crowdfunded campaigns, but was also not proven. There were suggestions to remember Wyatt has a history of not playing well with others. And we pointed out the curious timing of Wyatt's new Kickstarter. What would you like to discuss? Would sending my out a single AtariVCS in December fulfill their promise to start shipping to backers by then? 7 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites