Clint Thompson Posted September 12, 2019 Author Share Posted September 12, 2019 5 hours ago, -^Cro§Bow^- said: Could do what was done on the model 1 Genesis. Just use a small wire harness and attache the LED physically to the lower center of the top shell. Only unlike Sega, make it with a disconnect so you can remove that top shell easier. I'm sure that would be less expensive compared to a lucite light pipe being made? That's a good idea! It's a shame Tim isn't available to disassemble and show internal pictures of his prototype case, if he even has it anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+-^CrossBow^- Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 15 minutes ago, Clint Thompson said: That's a good idea! It's a shame Tim isn't available to disassemble and show internal pictures of his prototype case, if he even has it anymore. I've actually held that prototype case in my hands before. Way back in 2003...but we didn't take it apart and left it as it was for display in a case during my first year convention. Curt sent it along with the transparent 7800 I think and a few other cool things we had on display that year. But I don't recall that an actual LED was in it. I think it was all hollow inside and was literally just a mock up case. Not even sure it had mounting points inside it for anything to be attached into it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retrorgb Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 This is absolutely incredible. I'm so excited to see where this project leads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cobra! Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 So does this mean you're essentially making new Jaguar+JagCD consoles? That is so cool! I am so excited to see this happening! ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mario64 Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 This is so incredibly exciting! Thanks to all involved. Please put me on the waiting list if there is one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirlynxalot Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 What are the dimensions of a jag duo anyway? Is it larger or smaller than a jag? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamecomposer Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 Amazing!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwinFami Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 I want to be put on a wait list too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mckafka99 Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 Looks awesome! Count me in on any waiting list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalani Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 I say call it The siemese jag. Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clint Thompson Posted September 20, 2019 Author Share Posted September 20, 2019 On 9/16/2019 at 5:40 PM, sirlynxalot said: What are the dimensions of a jag duo anyway? Is it larger or smaller than a jag? The Duo is a tad bigger or at least wider. On the PCB side: Standard Jag is 8" W x 9" L JagDuo is 10" W x 9.25 L Side by side comparison the Duo layout is cleaned up quite a bit but you can really see just how similar it is to the base Jaguar without the CD interface board: The tedious yet somewhat fascinating real work of sourcing 176 lines worth of components has begun... though probably my favorite kind of puzzle: It appears as though Atari had the idea of including a single heatsink for Tom at some point since a Wakefield 658-60AB is listed in the BOM, which clearly didn't make the cut: 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+grips03 Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 this is so awesome 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+madman Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 Did Atari decide to add a 3c diode for reverse polarity protect on the Duo? Or were they OK with incorrect polarity blowing up those systems too? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheNameOfTheGame Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 8 hours ago, Clint Thompson said: The tedious yet somewhat fascinating real work of sourcing 176 lines worth of components has begun... though probably my favorite kind of puzzle: Using Atari Works...nice touch. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awbacon Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 the amount of work going into this project is STAGGERING. I am more than impressed! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 Are you going with the original pcb shape or do you plan on resizing it to match the original jag so you can get housings for it on the cheap(er) versus making your own? That way you could at least have a bottom mold and would only need a top half when the time comes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirlynxalot Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 (edited) 18 hours ago, Shawn said: Are you going with the original pcb shape or do you plan on resizing it to match the original jag so you can get housings for it on the cheap(er) versus making your own? That way you could at least have a bottom mold and would only need a top half when the time comes? But then the case wouldn't be the jag duos case, which doesn't seem to curve toward the front the same way the jag case does. That would then mean the top shell needs to be reconfigured - and between reconfiguring the shape of the plastic shell and the board to be a custom design, would it really be a recreation of atari's plans for the jag duo at that point? Edited September 21, 2019 by sirlynxalot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baba Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 FWIW, I’d like to be on a waiting list if this becomes viable! This is fantastic! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VintageGamer74 Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 (edited) Good luck with the project! I'd definitely be interested in one if it comes to that. Edited September 27, 2019 by VintageGamer74 Spelling error. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeatari1 Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 (edited) Clint, This is an amazing project. I have been a long time lurker here (about 15 years or so, yeah I don't do anything fast) and have never seen such an ambitious undertaking. I wish you the best of luck and if you do decide to go into production, please add me to the already long list of Jag Duo collectors! ? Edited September 28, 2019 by joeatari1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Dangerous Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 Nice progress Clint ? Keeping an eye on this one for sure. Even if you only get one working it would be amazing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judas-Prime Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 Will purchase if this comes to fruition. Also will purchase an empty replica Jag Duo Shell...basically I'm gonna spend some monies on this no matter what so please continue!!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clint Thompson Posted October 1, 2019 Author Share Posted October 1, 2019 (edited) On 9/20/2019 at 9:48 AM, TheNameOfTheGame said: Using Atari Works...nice touch. Sadly, actually. For nostalgic sake it's kind of cool but definitely not fun to use and wish it upon no one. I've since painstakingly updated the BOM so it's easier to deal with in modern day form. Have already ordered the bulk of the major components and ICs. Next round is to order all the mundane but clearly very important resistor, capacitor and crystal stuff... On 9/20/2019 at 4:14 PM, Shawn said: Are you going with the original pcb shape or do you plan on resizing it to match the original jag so you can get housings for it on the cheap(er) versus making your own? That way you could at least have a bottom mold and would only need a top half when the time comes? On 9/21/2019 at 10:23 AM, sirlynxalot said: But then the case wouldn't be the jag duos case, which doesn't seem to curve toward the front the same way the jag case does. That would then mean the top shell needs to be reconfigured - and between reconfiguring the shape of the plastic shell and the board to be a custom design, would it really be a recreation of atari's plans for the jag duo at that point? As long as the PCB fits the case drawings as intended then yes, definitely want to keep everything as close to the original prototype design as possible. Some of the parts have started arriving. I was going to completely drop the RF altogether since it likely serves no purpose but they were surprisingly easy to find. So to stay true to the original design, I figured why not: Edited October 1, 2019 by Clint Thompson 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 I find it crazy that they were still going with RF during the proposed release period (late 95/early 96?). Still, it was a transitionary period. Amazing work on this, I've not been on the forums for a while and probably will still be sporadic in checking in over the next month or two. But wow, great progress. I'm wondering given that all you've done thus far, would it be worth trying to reinitiate contact with the owner of the JagDuo shell prototype? It might impress him enough to either share more info/photos/dimensions, or (if he's truly out of the scene) be willing to lend or sell you the prototype. It might be worth trying to to wow him to coax him into sharing with you. I can only guess (probably incorrectly, probably too low ) how much such a project is going to cost the end user. Yet, for whatever irrational reason, I'm going to have to get myself one immediately upon release. Always loved the proposed design. More sleek UFO/stealth bomber than toilet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Dragon Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 Going purely off very hazy memory here ? But i seem to remember Sega bundled the UK Saturn with an RF cable rather than SCART and there was much uproar about having to pay extra to get the best picture from your Next Generation console. Sega attempted to justify it by huge numbers of existing older TV sets in use at the time with RF sockets. Atari would probably of tried a similar tactic when cornered ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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