ianoid Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 https://www.ebay.com/itm/THE-ELUSIVE-ELI-039-S-LADDER-RARE-10-FOR-ATARI-/122792035411? Images stolen from: http://www.atarimania.com/game-atari-2600-vcs-eli-s-ladder_16654.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPUWIZ Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 Could also be the owner, who gave the pictures to Olaf. Doubtful though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianoid Posted November 13, 2017 Author Share Posted November 13, 2017 When asked if it could be a reproduction and why are the images stolen: "This is a copy of the one I have for sale it was purchased off of eBay awhile ago from myself, but due to situations, I will have to sell it. As per your question stolen from a website, I think not. I currently own it, check the dates on the images you see online, they're old!" The response doesn't make any sense to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPUWIZ Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 The response doesn't make any sense to me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atari Smeghead Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 When asked if it could be a reproduction and why are the images stolen: "This is a copy of the one I have for sale it was purchased off of eBay awhile ago from myself, but due to situations, I will have to sell it. As per your question stolen from a website, I think not. I currently own it, check the dates on the images you see online, they're old!" The response doesn't make any sense to me. Wait.. did he just say he bought it from himself? All I can say is, he way overpaid! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H454 Posted November 13, 2017 Share Posted November 13, 2017 When asked if it could be a reproduction and why are the images stolen: "This is a copy of the one I have for sale it was purchased off of eBay awhile ago from myself, but due to situations, I will have to sell it. As per your question stolen from a website, I think not. I currently own it, check the dates on the images you see online, they're old!" The response doesn't make any sense to me. This sounds a lot like the last guy - that his daughter was selling for him? And one them ( or both) had/has cancer? Either way, the last thread was interesting, so lets see where this one goes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+stupus Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 Isn't this the same dingus from the other thread just trying to sell it once again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SignGuy81 Posted November 14, 2017 Share Posted November 14, 2017 (edited) If you look at the other guys listings the table is on most of them where the cart is laying, so maybe the image on the website came from him? EDIT: Also there are additional pics on the ebay listing on the same table and clearly the same cart, which aren't shown on the website. Edited November 14, 2017 by SignGuy81 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom Hunter Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 I stole these pictures from his auction.But: the second scan on our page was donated to us a looong time ago and it's exactly the same cart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+stupus Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 I stole these pictures from his auction. But: the second scan on our page was donated to us a looong time ago and it's exactly the same cart. No, they have different labels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NISMOPC Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 (edited) No, they have different labels. The 2nd, 3rd and 4th images all have same rip in upper left corner of label as the action. I'd assume he has a legit copy based on that. I'm no expert on these, but I did stay in a Holiday Inn Express once (maybe). Edited November 15, 2017 by NISMOPC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+stupus Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 Not sure what you mean. The one from ebay is the same exact copy as one of the carts shown on atarimania. But it looks different from the other older cart also shown on atarimania. This is why I asked before why this copy is being shown at atarimania when it appears to be a fake......I never got an answer though. I think this will be a title I will no longer pursue now unless it's purchased from a known collector who has owned it for a good time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom Hunter Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 (edited) No, they have different labels. Nope. The second, third and fourth picture are all showing the same cart. Edited November 15, 2017 by Rom Hunter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+stupus Posted November 15, 2017 Share Posted November 15, 2017 Yes of course. But the pics of the older example you have....that cart has a different label than the cart in question that's on ebay. So is there a known label variation (highly doubtful) or is the one in question a fake/repro? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom Hunter Posted November 16, 2017 Share Posted November 16, 2017 (edited) Yes of course. But the pics of the older example you have....that cart has a different label than the cart in question that's on ebay. So is there a known label variation (highly doubtful) or is the one in question a fake/repro? Ah, I see what you mean now. Looks like the one in question is indeed a reproduction. I removed it from the database. Here's a pic of its end label, btw. Edited November 16, 2017 by Rom Hunter 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+stupus Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 Hi rom, thanks for clarification. I suppose you could keep it in the database as an example of a fake Chances are it will rear its head again when the buyer realizes he was duped and resells or returns to the seller who will resell it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Ksarul Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 That guy has a lot of bizarro rare items for sale--things that really don't fit together at all. Now he's trying to sell the rarest five cent coin from Newfoundland along with another auction for a Tigervision River Patrol. . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.Cade Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 It is strange. He sold the exact same Eli's Ladder a month ago also. I guess it could have been non-paying bidder... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+stupus Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 Or they returned it when they saw it was a fake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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