+CyranoJ Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 Documenting the development of by attempt to bring Bad Apple to the Jaguar. I am satisfied with v7 enough to call it a day. ----------------------- MONOCHROME VERSIONS ----------------------- Bad Apple GD: Bad Apple SD.romBad Apple SD.mrq 21.8 Khz Audio (Orion's player - Audio re-sampled from HQ MP3 instead of taken from the YouTube source) 320x200x4bpp Video Subtitles (Can be toggled on/off) Seventh Attempt: Bad Apple v7.rom 15.3 Khz Audio (Orion's player - Audio re-sampled from HQ MP3 instead of taken from the YouTube source) 320x220x2bpp Video Subtitles (Can be toggled on/off) https://youtu.be/57gy2GWr2I4 Sixth Attempt: Bad Apple v6.rom 11.9 Khz Audio (Orion's player - Audio re-sampled from HQ MP3 instead of taken from the YouTube source) 320x220x2bpp Video https://youtu.be/d5FW4H2p2ic Fifth Attempt: Bad Apple v5.rom Video now at 160x120, scaled to 1:2 for fulscreen, however now in 4bpp (16 shades) - The ROM is back to 6Mb. Is this better? I guess if you prefer shading over detail. I'll probably make a 320x240 1bpp version tomorrow (its 2am!) and leave it at that. https://youtu.be/bV3NfBRtgxM Fourth Attempt: Bad Apple v4.rom Replaced the depacker with NRV2E by lsl / Checkpoint. Demo is now 4mb. No new video, it's exactly the same as below. I'll try a higher res and/or more shades 6Mb version next, now that there is suddenly 2Mb free! Third Attempt: Bad Apple v3.rom 21.9 Khz Audio (Orion's player) 320x120 Video Additionally, some processing has been done on individual sequences - the star field at the start was punched to 3.0 GAMMA so they are visible. Several other sequences were converted with dithering so things such as the band and the running girl at the end now have their shadows, and the flames look much nicer. Looping has been added so you can leave it running. https://youtu.be/T7D90dmW4dk Second Attempt: Bad Apple v2.rom 21.9 Khz Audio (Orion's player) 320x120 Video https://youtu.be/j6WawI1DE6U First Attempt: BadApple-6mb.rom 15.9 Khz Audio (ZeroPlayer) 192x100 Video https://youtu.be/-OWGjuuQ7Gw ----------------------- COLOUR VERSIONS ----------------------- Second Colour Attempt: BadApple3DColour_v2.rom 11 khz Audio 160x98x4bpp https://youtu.be/i6K5C_qD8GU First Colour Attempt: BadApple3DColour.rom 21.9Khz Audio 112x90x4bpp https://youtu.be/KnB_DHxTSRc 29 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christos Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 Technical details pls. How many colours per frame? Dithering technics? Compression? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion_ Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 (edited) maybe with my IMADPCM player you could have had a better frame resolution, it's 4bits -> 16bits (3m47s @ 15300hz would take 1736550 bytes) drop me a message if you want the DSP source code Edited December 28, 2017 by Orion_ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+CyranoJ Posted December 28, 2017 Author Share Posted December 28, 2017 maybe with my IMADPCM player you could have had a better frame resolution, it's 4bits -> 16bits (3m47s @ 15300hz would take 1736550 bytes) drop me a message if you want the DSP source code I did look into it, but I'm happy with this for now *If anything, I'd leave the video as is, and improve the audio quality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+CyranoJ Posted December 28, 2017 Author Share Posted December 28, 2017 Technical details pls. How many colours per frame? Dithering technics? Compression? C'mon, it's Christmas - enjoy the magic in the air. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stage_1_Boss Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 More fun things for when the SD cart makes it's way. = ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+CyranoJ Posted December 28, 2017 Author Share Posted December 28, 2017 Got Orion's audio player working! Will probably post a higher resolution version with 21Khz audio in the next day or so 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+CyranoJ Posted December 28, 2017 Author Share Posted December 28, 2017 First post updated! Much thanks, Orion! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christos Posted December 28, 2017 Share Posted December 28, 2017 C'mon, it's Christmas - enjoy the magic in the air. There is no such thing as magic. Only technology so advanced that is affordabale (and indistinguishable from it). Looking forward to reading the details when you feel like it! The jag needs more demos 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+CyranoJ Posted December 29, 2017 Author Share Posted December 29, 2017 v3.0 and final (for now) ROM posted. Enjoy! (again!) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JagChris Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 Beautiful work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion_ Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 First post updated! Much thanks, Orion! Wow, that was quick !Nice work on the vidéo optimisation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punisher5.0 Posted December 29, 2017 Share Posted December 29, 2017 Nice work! I'll have to check it out. I have this on my Genesis flash cart too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piter Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Beautiful ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+CyranoJ Posted December 30, 2017 Author Share Posted December 30, 2017 4th attempt - it's now 4mb! Truly becoming a community project Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+CyranoJ Posted December 30, 2017 Author Share Posted December 30, 2017 16 colour (4bpp) version.... wheeeee! spamming my own thread. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scobb Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Really amazing work! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEATH Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 you should try... a CD version... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+CyranoJ Posted December 30, 2017 Author Share Posted December 30, 2017 you should try... a CD version... Zero challenge / fun in that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerosquare Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 (edited) Nonsense. You're expecting us to believe that getting the JagCD working isn't a challenge? Edited December 31, 2017 by Zerosquare 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stage_1_Boss Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 May I have mine in a red apple cart shell with a bite taken out of the handle? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+CyranoJ Posted December 31, 2017 Author Share Posted December 31, 2017 Well, I got a 320x100 16 colour version working but it looked horrible. I think it was because it was shaded nicely horizontally but very rough in vertical. So, I might try a 160x240 version - the shading might cover defects in X, while Y will have the resolution. After that, the only thing left is 320x240x1 with some sequences dithered (fire, etc) I'm 100% positive with delta compression 320x240x16c is perfectly achievable, but that would be for someone else to try @10:30pm NYE here, I'm too drunk to run the numbers again tonight. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GadgetUK Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Really nice!!! Well done!!! =D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neo_rg Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 I'm loving how this is progressing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R0ger Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Good job ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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