Inky Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 Playing through some games, and I noticed that Defender runs a hell of a lot smoother than Stargate. Stargate, being a later title, I'd think would be the better of the two, but it's not. Why is this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mclaneinc Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 Number of objects on screen, prototype, the possibilities are endless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Stephen Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 Never knew about stargate for the 8-bit. I watched a few youtube videos, and yeah, it looks crappy. Is it an official release, or was it just an unfinished prototype? Here we go - http://www.atariprotos.com/8bit/software/stargate/stargate.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Thag Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 IIRC, Stargate is a prototype that hadn't been optimized the way Defender had. Much like Sinistar. I'm hoping some hacker can speed it up a bit someday, the way people fixed Sinistar. It's a good port that really only suffers from the slowdown. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inky Posted February 26, 2018 Author Share Posted February 26, 2018 Ahh I thought it was officially released.That having been said, Millipede was officially released, and it seems to be choppier than Centipede Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Cafeman Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 http://cafeman.www9.50megs.com/atari/5200defender.html An interview with the programmer of both at the end of that article. He wasn't paid for Stargate, probably just quit working on it and thus not optimized. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inky Posted February 26, 2018 Author Share Posted February 26, 2018 http://cafeman.www9.50megs.com/atari/5200defender.html An interview with the programmer of both at the end of that article. He wasn't paid for Stargate, probably just quit working on it and thus not optimized. Ahhh. That clears it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fragmare Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 Stargate was a victim of acute notgivingafuckism... a common ailment amongst programmers who are not paid or underpaid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 Well, it also could have to do with trying to make sure it can be crammed into a 16K cartridge and will run on a 16K system. Sometimes you don't get to write the engine you'd like to. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark loves Stella Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 Try playing Stargate with Rapidus. Very smooth. Now its worth playing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heaven/TQA Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 well... maybe lack of skills, lack of interest to make it smooth etc etc etc as it was said... endless reasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inky Posted February 28, 2018 Author Share Posted February 28, 2018 Try playing Stargate with Rapidus. Very smooth. Now its worth playing. What is this Rapidus? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mclaneinc Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 Its a cartridge based accelerator that uses a 68030 (I think) running at a high clock rate, its also emulated in Altirra if you want a sneak peek.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanti77 Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 Rapidus use 65c816 20mhz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Umberto Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 Its a cartridge based accelerator that uses a 68030 (I think) running at a high clock rate, its also emulated in Altirra if you want a sneak peek.. It uses the 65c816 and plugs into the CPU socket. Not a cartridge but very easy to install. I love mine. Adds a bunch of cool features Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Stephen Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 I believe McLenicwas thinking of the Veronika, which is a cart based accelerator, also using the 65816. There exists a BASIC for it. It's a neat solution and as it's cart based, no mods to the machine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mclaneinc Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 (edited) Yeah, mix up time on both, got my Snes and Amiga used processors mixed up (and to think I used to remove the PAL checks on the Snes cart dumps...My old head is going soft The only bit I got right was that its emulated on Altirra Edited February 28, 2018 by Mclaneinc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark loves Stella Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 What is this Rapidus? Lotharek sells them. Here is it. https://lotharek.pl/productdetail.php?id=130 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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