flashjazzcat Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 No, they're clearly not black and white. The brown is very dark, however... much darker than any consumer aerosol paint I could find when I was making 1064 SIO2SD conversions years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Level42 Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 RAL 1013 is OK, but it’s not an exact match as I found out... Pics later Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russg Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 (edited) hi Russg, i think you may have some form of Protanopia I have about 15 different XLs and NONE are black. the XL range is definitely a dark brown (keyboard and keyboard case surround) I definitely think you have a better vocabulary than me. red blindness=protanopia. But I don't believe I have color deficit. If you look at the pictures in Yellowman's post a few back, they look black and white to me. Maybe a little not bright white, but definitely not beige or brown, but dark black. OK, I'll take off-white and dark black. The picture in Yellowman's post is accurate. Well... His picture is of a painted XL, so it doesn't count OK. I looked again, how about slightly grey. Well, I see I lose in other opinions. Now a little more. Here's a picture. Clearly shows a little brown. Edited September 4, 2018 by russg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashjazzcat Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 It's brown, not black. If you don't have a sight defect, you have a severe monitor colour calibration defect. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irgendwer Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 RAL 1013 is OK, but it’s not an exact match as I found out... Pics later Let me guess - it's too light? As I wrote: 1015 is the way to go... (even if it is a tiny bit too beige, it matches then a slightly matured XL very well) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russg Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 OK, a whole lot brown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivop Posted September 4, 2018 Author Share Posted September 4, 2018 OK, a whole lot brown. It might be that the yellowing of the white also affects the brown, making it darker, almost black. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Level42 Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 Let me guess - it's too light? As I wrote: 1015 is the way to go... (even if it is a tiny bit too beige, it matches then a slightly matured XL very well) Yep, too light indeed. But my 600XL looks like new so no 1015 for me either.....is there a 1014 ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Level42 Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 It might be that the yellowing of the white also affects the brown, making it darker, almost black. Nah.....I have loads of,XL stuff....doesn’t happen. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivop Posted September 4, 2018 Author Share Posted September 4, 2018 Yep, too light indeed. But my 600XL looks like new so no 1015 for me either.....is there a 1014 ? Yes, but it's more yellow ivory. 1015 is light ivory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 (edited) I definitely think you have a better vocabulary than me. red blindness=protanopia. But I don't believe I have color deficit. If you look at the pictures in Yellowman's post a few back, they look black and white to me. Maybe a little not bright white, but definitely not beige or brown, but dark black. OK, I'll take off-white and dark black. The picture in Yellowman's post is accurate. Well... His picture is of a painted XL, so it doesn't count OK. I looked again, how about slightly grey. Well, I see I lose in other opinions. Now a little more. Here's a picture. Clearly shows a little brown.P9041364.JPG I'd say (probably) bad monitor. but to clarify protanopia: it applies to the whole Red/orange/yellow area of the spectrum. the main primary component of Brown is Red. For a protanope, the brightness of red, orange, and yellow are much reduced compared to normal. This dimming can be so pronounced that reds may be confused with black or dark gray. They may learn to distinguish reds from yellows primarily on the basis of their apparent brightness or lightness, not on any perceptible hue difference. Edited September 4, 2018 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irgendwer Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 Yep, too light indeed. But my 600XL looks like new so no 1015 for me either.....is there a 1014 ? As it seems that trust in my suggestion is very limited here my "proof": Remarks: * The artificial light doesn't help to illustrate the real color (this was the reason I didn't post an image before, as it isn't really meaningful). * My 600XL is also in a quite good condition and far from being significantly yellowed. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 I don't know anything about spray paints. But the XLs are white and black. The 400/800 are brown/tan. XL's are light BEIGE and BROWN. There is no black on XL's Apropos of nothing, this made me think of the opening scene in the movie Airplane.... (The white zone is for loading and unloading....) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Level42 Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 As it seems that trust in my suggestion is very limited here my "proof": 1015.JPG Remarks: * The artificial light doesn't help to illustrate the real color (this was the reason I didn't post an image before, as it isn't really meaningful). * My 600XL is also in a quite good condition and far from being significantly yellowed. Wooooo, I would never dare to doubt you.. !! Its just that my 600XLs seem a bit lighter than other models....or is this because it has smalle beige parts ? By the way....that looks like a very cool mod on that monitor !! Do you have more pics ? Well here is my result after countless layers, sanding, sags in paint, more sanding and spraying.... All in all Im happy with the result....the color is VERY close, and once you have it next to your other stuff with a bit of distance no-one will see anyndifference.... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irgendwer Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 (edited) On 9/10/2018 at 6:28 PM, Level42 said: By the way....that looks like a very cool mod on that monitor !! Do you have more pics ? Since I'm in need to gain some space, I sell this TV now: https://www.ebay.de/itm/143397727850 Here you can find quite "more pics". Edited September 29, 2019 by Irgendwer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivop Posted September 29, 2019 Author Share Posted September 29, 2019 (edited) Recently I used a paint mixing service to get Indigo Purple for a painting/mirror frame and I noticed that you can bring in your own sample color! They use a kind of spectrometer to determine the color and then mix an exact replica. https://www.praxis.nl/voordemakers/verfmengservice/ I suppose if you bring your case and have them scan the inside, you should be able to get pretty close to the original color your particular Atari was back in the day. Edited September 29, 2019 by ivop 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irgendwer Posted September 30, 2019 Share Posted September 30, 2019 Just one more picture with higher resolution: 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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