+Psionic Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 10 hours ago, Greg2600 said: D'OH!!!! Is he on here? Yes, but he hasn't posted anything in almost a year. https://atariage.com/forums/profile/1807-trade-n-games/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegaManFan Posted September 4, 2019 Author Share Posted September 4, 2019 (edited) Yeah he doesn't post much on AA these days. Understandable as he's got a family and that always comes first. Edited September 4, 2019 by MegaManFan edit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atari_Bill Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 Any updates on this? Anything released by the police investigation? Really hoping things turn out well. ? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+stupus Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 I heard some updates on this but i have not been able to find any info online giving any updated info. If anyone has a link to where jason might be updating info please share it. I heard the people were caught.... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atari_Bill Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 On 9/18/2019 at 11:04 PM, stupus said: I heard some updates on this but i have not been able to find any info online giving any updated info. If anyone has a link to where jason might be updating info please share it. I heard the people were caught.... It’s been 3 months without any updates. We’re there any arrests? Did any of the items get recovered? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+groundtrooper Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 2 hours ago, Atari_Bill said: It’s been 3 months without any updates. We’re there any arrests? Did any of the items get recovered? I haven't seen anything really other than a post in the AA Marketplace back in mid December. There was a sales post made by someone offering an Air Raid cart. Jason chimed in immediately stating that this was his stolen cart and asked that the post be removed and and the admins contact the him and the seller. They acted fast. I went back a few minutes later to grab a screen shot and the post was gone. It's amazing that someone would come to such a large community to try and move some stolen goods. Maybe the seller bought them and didn't know they were stolen and was just trying to sell who knows. But that is one interesting thing I have seen lately related to the situation. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+stupus Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 I havent heard more since i did in september other than the air raid on facebook. My guess is the facebook seller bought it and then was just reselling it. What i heard in sept was the people were caught and it included a former employee of jason who now worked for a competitor game store in that area. And it was people from that game store that did it and knew exactly what he had and how to get in and out fast. I havent heard about if he got stuff back or not yet. Hoping he would update somewhere but i havent seen him do so that i know of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 If there's an on-going investigation then the people generally can't comment. I'm guessing that's what's happening here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+stupus Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 I figured the same thing or he would have. Also insurance is involved so it gets complicated im sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keatah Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 ..and it could go on for years. Especially if there's a trial. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg2600 Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 1 hour ago, stupus said: I havent heard more since i did in september other than the air raid on facebook. My guess is the facebook seller bought it and then was just reselling it. What i heard in sept was the people were caught and it included a former employee of jason who now worked for a competitor game store in that area. And it was people from that game store that did it and knew exactly what he had and how to get in and out fast. I havent heard about if he got stuff back or not yet. Hoping he would update somewhere but i havent seen him do so that i know of. Wow, that's despicable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhd Posted December 26, 2019 Share Posted December 26, 2019 (edited) Unless the cartridges are marked or somehow identifiable. how does someone prove that a specific item was stolen (or otherwise came from) a particular collection? These are mass-produced (albeit very rare) items not unique works of art with a traceable provenance. There is also the legal doctrine that a purchaser for value, without notice takes good title -- e.g. person A steals a valuable widget. and then resells it. If I, in turn, purchase the widget from person A without notice (actual or constructive) that it was stolen, I get good title. The original owner has a claim against person A, of course, but not against a subsequent purchaser. Edited December 26, 2019 by jhd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmzalbar Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 With photos, there's a good chance someone would in fact be able to identify their specific item - tiny blemishes in the print, a wrinkle in the cellophane, a pattern of fading, a mark left by a shop sticker - any little detail could be recognizable to the owner even on sight, let alone by simply comparing against personal high-quality photos. I'm not a huge fan of collector culture, but I really sympathize hard with collectors who get robbed. It's pretty dumb to steal this kind of stuff, and people who do it usually get what's coming to them. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+stupus Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 Yes, a used label is like a fingerprint. It didnt surprise me at all he could identify his copy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blazing Lazers Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 2 weeks old, but still news to me. Damn good to know that they seem to have got the bad guy: https://fox2now.com/news/missouri/sheriff-st-louis-man-steals-71k-in-rare-video-games-from-store/amp/?__twitter_impression=true 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 So is this guy a rando or did he have some connection to the store? I thought the thief had to have some inside knowledge to know what was where and what to steal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atari_Bill Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 Good to know they finally nabbed this dirtbag. I’d love to know how much if anything was recovered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ApolloBoy Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 19 hours ago, Tempest said: So is this guy a rando or did he have some connection to the store? I thought the thief had to have some inside knowledge to know what was where and what to steal. It seems like some random guy saw the store's YouTube videos where their vault was shown, if this article is anything to go by: https://www.kmov.com/news/man-arrested-after-worth-of-rare-video-games-stolen-from/article_8415da26-c091-11e9-8948-ff2f7c5fe2a8.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punisher5.0 Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 Im glad they found him, he looks like a pos. Hopefully the stuff gets returned. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatPix Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 On 12/26/2019 at 11:57 PM, jhd said: There is also the legal doctrine that a purchaser for value, without notice takes good title -- e.g. person A steals a valuable widget. and then resells it. If I, in turn, purchase the widget from person A without notice (actual or constructive) that it was stolen, I get good title. The original owner has a claim against person A, of course, but not against a subsequent purchaser. I think it depends if the person that got stolen took their insurance money or not. To my understanding, the idea is that the insurance "become the owner" of the stolen items. https://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/11/automobiles/collectibles/11STOLEN.html For those who don't wanna click on a link, a Shelby was stolen in the 70's; 30 years later, someone found it for sale on eBay, and checked what car it was , for the seller listen the VIN and special Shelby number, and they matched the stolen car. The rightful owner called the police, and after checking, the car was returned to him. And the "owner/seller" which was found honest and not involved in the theft, well... got nothing. Despite having buying it with what looked like a clean title from a previous owner, he wasn't the legal owner of the car. Though he was refunded for the theft back in the day, so now the car is legally the insurer's property... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+-^CrossBow^- Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 I've watched the videos that TNG has posted. And none of the Atari stuff was show in those vids nor information that would lead anyone to think those games were in the safe. So while the videos do show the safe in the background, there isn't any reason to think the games would be inside there. I wouldn't have thought they were in there. Although I see quite a few safes in my line of work, they usually contain cash tills full of starting bank amounts for the customer's POS systems and not rarities. I would have thought that stuff would have been kept at home personally. Still I'm glad to see they got the guy, but it looks like some of the stuff was sold before this guy was found since it does state that not everything was recovered. Hopefully the games were at least or mostly recovered. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Psionic Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 On 3/11/2020 at 5:43 PM, -^CrossBow^- said: I've watched the videos that TNG has posted. And none of the Atari stuff was show in those vids nor information that would lead anyone to think those games were in the safe. So while the videos do show the safe in the background, there isn't any reason to think the games would be inside there. I wouldn't have thought they were in there. It's not his own videos that were the problem. He showed off the safe and its contents at the end of this video that was posted by Racketboy back in 2010. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhd Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 On 3/11/2020 at 3:43 PM, -^CrossBow^- said: Although I see quite a few safes in my line of work, they usually contain cash tills full of starting bank amounts for the customer's POS systems and not rarities. I would have thought that stuff would have been kept at home personally. Many years ago, I was visiting a used game store that supposedly had a Nintendo World Championship cartridge for sale. The proprietor assured me that it was being stored in a safe deposit box at a local bank rather than in the store. I have no idea if he was telling the truth about either the existence of the game cartridge or where it was being stored; I was not a potential purchaser so it did not matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg2600 Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 Jason posted an update on the robbery. Unfortunately it's not that good. He "found" only a handful of his games, and most all were damaged. The thieves fenced a lot of them in Las Vegas, and the shops out there were little help. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tavi Posted February 11, 2021 Share Posted February 11, 2021 14 minutes ago, Greg2600 said: Jason posted an update on the robbery. Unfortunately it's not that good. He "found" only a handful of his games, and most all were damaged. The thieves fenced a lot of them in Las Vegas, and the shops out there were little help. That is a sad ending to a tragic tale. Insurance may have covered the monetary worth, but the collectibles are usually invaluable to the one actually collecting them. Plus, depending on rarity some of this collection may be literally irreplaceable. It is good that he got some of the collection back, but it certainly still is a tragic loss. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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