tschak909 Posted March 1, 2020 Author Share Posted March 1, 2020 Does anyone want to take this code, and debug it? https://github.com/FujiNetWIFI/atariwifi/blob/master/esp32/tests/atxtest/atxtest.ino This is for ATX support, and I have my hands full trying to work on the N: device. This was ported from the SDrive-MAX. -Thom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMontezuma Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 (edited) Hi Thom, I followed your instructions: https://github.com/FujiNetWIFI/atariwifi/wiki/Board-Bring-up-for-PLATFORM.IO-code and setup the platformio IDE. Beside porting the project to the new IDE and restructuring the code, you still use Arduino software framework (and not ESP-IDF), correct? My NodeMCU ESP32 does not seem to response to the SIO reqs at all. I have not analysed the code, but the debug terminal shows: I don't have the SD card, so SD card mounting fails. Is this the reason? I think it would make sense to still support generic NodeMCU ESP32 boards. Regards Marcin [EDIT] Now I see that you check the voltage on the PIN 35... Do you have current schematics for ESP32? Edited March 1, 2020 by TheMontezuma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozzwald Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 10 minutes ago, TheMontezuma said: Beside porting the project to the new IDE and restructuring the code, you still use Arduino software framework (and not ESP-IDF), correct? Yes, it is still using parts of the Arduino framework. 1 minute ago, TheMontezuma said: My NodeMCU ESP32 does not seem to response to the SIO reqs at all. I have not analysed the code, but the debug terminal shows: I don't have the SD card, so SD card mounting fails. Is this the reason? I think it would make sense to still support generic NodeMCU ESP32 boards. Regards Marcin The SD card mount errors are unrelated to your issue. The code attempts to mount the SD card if available and continues on. The error message is just stating it could not be mounted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMontezuma Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 Thanks. In the meantime I connected 5V to PIN35 and got it working Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tschak909 Posted March 3, 2020 Author Share Posted March 3, 2020 #FujiNet #Atari8bit made a video demonstrating how to back up existing floppy based media to the network! I use my daughter's BASIC programs disk as an example. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tschak909 Posted March 7, 2020 Author Share Posted March 7, 2020 I am setting up a Discord meet to talk about #FujiNet, it's current state, what's left to do, and to have discussions between the developers and potential users: When: Tomorrow, March 7, 2020 Time: 12:00N - 2:00p Central Where: https://discord.gg/K6ACREH - via Voice/Screen Share 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathy Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 (edited) Hello Thom 49 minutes ago, tschak909 said: When: Tomorrow, March 7, 2020 Time: 12:00N - 2:00p Central Is that Saturday or Sunday? It should be early morning on Saturday in the USA at the moment, so tomorrow would be Sunday the 8th. Or is my brain playing games on me again? Sincerely Mathy Edited March 7, 2020 by Mathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tschak909 Posted March 7, 2020 Author Share Posted March 7, 2020 3 minutes ago, Mathy said: Hello Thom Is that Saturday or Sunday? It should be early morning on Saturday in the USA at the moment, so tomorrow would be Sunday the 8th. Or is my brain playing games on me again? Sincerely Mathy You are correct, sir. -Thom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tschak909 Posted March 8, 2020 Author Share Posted March 8, 2020 oh FFS Yes, it is Sunday. March 8th. -Thom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tschak909 Posted March 8, 2020 Author Share Posted March 8, 2020 Thanks to all who showed up to the #Atari8bit #FujiNet discussion. Was there anyone who didn't show up, but wanted to? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle22 Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 Yeah, me. But I missed it. Now that I'm an owner, the store is open 7 days a week. I have no day off. Is there an archive of this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tschak909 Posted March 9, 2020 Author Share Posted March 9, 2020 1 minute ago, Kyle22 said: Yeah, me. But I missed it. Now that I'm an owner, the store is open 7 days a week. I have no day off. Is there an archive of this? The choice of Discord, and how I was having to stream everything in meant that I couldn't record it. My experience with Discord doing this ultimately means that I am looking once more for a usable teleconferencing solution that can actually scale for large numbers of participants... I will try to have more meet-ups though as things get completed. -Thom 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle22 Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 Can we put FujiNet inside and use the RF cable hole for the antenna? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tschak909 Posted March 9, 2020 Author Share Posted March 9, 2020 ........................sure? Somebody who's a hardware wonk can better answer how to best do that, though. -Thom 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8-bit and more Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 14 hours ago, tschak909 said: The choice of Discord, and how I was having to stream everything in meant that I couldn't record it. My experience with Discord doing this ultimately means that I am looking once more for a usable teleconferencing solution that can actually scale for large numbers of participants... I will try to have more meet-ups though as things get completed. -Thom I recorded the last hour or so since I was walking in and out of the room and wanted to replay it. If everyone who was there gives the ok i'll put it up for download Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tschak909 Posted March 9, 2020 Author Share Posted March 9, 2020 Sounds good. -Thom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamm Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 Fine with me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8-bit and more Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 On 2/9/2020 at 9:42 PM, tschak909 said: Results of my caching experiment: Basically, grabbing all or partial list of the current directory is much too slow to be of any real use to the directory cache. To return a list of 10 files, is roughly 500ms on the local network. To return a list of 2788 files, is 110385ms, from a remote site. or 110 seconds. This is compounded by the fact that the directory can only be retrieved serially, with no ability to re-position the directory cursor to a specific entry. Given that the round trip for each directory entry can vary wildly between a few to more than a few dozen milliseconds, even with grabbing the directory in its own thread, it will be painfully slow, (and there's no way to query for the number of entries in the directory, so I can't do much in the read-ahead department) So I will most likely need to extend TNFS to add commands for SEEKDIR and TELLDIR, so that I can specifically position an open directory handle, or return its current position, respectively, and maybe return the # of entries in a directory, so that I can scoot things ahead. Will table this for now, and work on other issues. (There's a reason I said it will take a good year to firm things up!) But HEY, The filename ellipsize function I put together works BEAUTIFULLY! -Thom Now if you could just add a "popup" when you hover over a filename to show the entire filename lol...btw good work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamm Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 4 hours ago, 8-bit and more said: Now if you could just add a "popup" when you hover over a filename to show the entire filename lol...btw good work I notice there are three or four columns not being used on the right (not even counting the two-column margins on both the left and right of the screen). You could have a command (e.g. CTRL-I) that switches to a display with the full filename, timestamp, and any other useful metadata. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashjazzcat Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 On 2/10/2020 at 2:42 AM, tschak909 said: But HEY, The filename ellipsize function I put together works BEAUTIFULLY! My... that looks familiar. They say it's the sincerest form of flattery. Now you just need to make the highlighted name scroll left and right. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tschak909 Posted March 10, 2020 Author Share Posted March 10, 2020 I actually need to go through and do some serious re-thinking on this whole section of the code. I am having to add at the very least, a new pair of functions to TNFS itself, seekdir and telldir, so that I can query and reposition the directory cursor, and make pagination less painful. I _want_ to add scandir() for proper sorting and filtering, but am getting resistance from TNFS upstream, am still trying to make this case. The FS API itself doesn't have seekdir/telldir, so for local storage, a rewinddir()/read forward will have to be used to simulate the seekdir... There's a reason I am stating that we still have a lot of work ahead of us, if image selection is botched, the whole solution will not be a joy to use, this is important to me. -Thom 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamm Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, tschak909 said: I _want_ to add scandir() for proper sorting and filtering, but am getting resistance from TNFS upstream, am still trying to make this case. Can't imagine what the upstream resistance would be about. Where's the downside in adding more functionality at the server end that the client could optionally make use of? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tschak909 Posted March 10, 2020 Author Share Posted March 10, 2020 Dylan Smith (the creator of Spectranet and TNFS) has decreed that the protocol be as simple as possible, and has also said that such issues of searching/filtering are UI issues, not to be addressed by the protocol. -Thom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamm Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 Just now, tschak909 said: Dylan Smith (the creator of Spectranet and TNFS) has decreed that the protocol be as simple as possible, and has also said that such issues of searching/filtering are UI issues, not to be addressed by the protocol. I appreciate the "keep it simple" philosophy. But it's woefully inefficient (if not outright impractical when it comes to our limited machines) to leave searching/filtering to UI code when you're talking about client/server code. Maybe appealing to efficiency or examples of other simple protocols that do have that kind of functionality included would help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tschak909 Posted March 10, 2020 Author Share Posted March 10, 2020 The problem here, is that TNFS's implementation is very 1:1 to POSIX, with each protocol verb mapping directly to a POSIX call. This means that returning each directory entry requires one full UDP round trip. It means doing a stat() to get ANY information about the file, is ALSO one separate full UDP round trip. This does not count the SIO round trip to the Atari for any information ready for the Atari to process. I am having to take some hard knocks and bruises to try and find a solution that works well for image selection. this in addition to ..........everything else I am working on. -Thom 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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