Tweety Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 Strangely enough I encountered a 2600 game "Marine Wars" that refuses to fit into my Atari 7800. Am I to gentle? Or do I need a Hammer (get in there!) Of course I can play it on my 2600, but this bothers me a bit... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+SmittyB Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 I believe the tolerances on the cartridge port are tighter on the 7800 than on the 2600 so a number of 3rd party cartridges won't fit and forcing a cartridge in will split a plastic cartridge guide piece inside. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gambler172 Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 For me no problem.....i have an adapter ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tweety Posted November 23, 2019 Author Share Posted November 23, 2019 5 hours ago, SmittyB said: I believe the tolerances on the cartridge port are tighter on the 7800 than on the 2600 so a number of 3rd party cartridges won't fit and forcing a cartridge in will split a plastic cartridge guide piece inside. Glad that it is not my imagination, I already thought "Why is this happening only to me!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tweety Posted November 23, 2019 Author Share Posted November 23, 2019 1 hour ago, gambler172 said: For me no problem.....i have an adapter ? New knew there was an adapter for it. Do you have an picture of it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+-^CrossBow^- Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 I use a dremel and route out the corners of the cartridge sleeve about 3/4 an inch or so from the bottom up. That removes enough to allow all the carts to fit without looking too obvious on first glance unless you look inside the cartridge slot really well. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 On 11/23/2019 at 6:55 PM, Tweety said: New knew there was an adapter for it. Do you have an picture of it? I built it for him many years ago. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tweety Posted November 26, 2019 Author Share Posted November 26, 2019 On 11/24/2019 at 1:09 AM, -^CrossBow^- said: I use a dremel and route out the corners of the cartridge sleeve about 3/4 an inch or so from the bottom up. That removes enough to allow all the carts to fit without looking too obvious on first glance unless you look inside the cartridge slot really well. That's not how far I'm willing to go, in this way is taking extreme measures ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flojomojo Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 1 hour ago, Tweety said: That's not how far I'm willing to go, in this way is taking extreme measures ? I agree -- if I had to choose between butchering an old 7800 and playing that one game, I'd do without playing the one game. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qrysdonnell Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 Six switches tend to be tighter too. I haven't encountered any that didn't fit, but I've created some minor scuffs on labels trying to get them out! (Nothing truly valuable, fortunately - and very minor scuffs) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+-^CrossBow^- Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 1 hour ago, Flojomojo said: I agree -- if I had to choose between butchering an old 7800 and playing that one game, I'd do without playing the one game. Doesn't really look any different from the outward appearance as I said. It is better than forcing them in until the cherry breaks on the sleeve itself which, is what happened with my daily driver unit and it broke in a few places. Konami carts are bad but so are the Sega shells and Imagic carts can be the worst and those are games you would want to play. Here is one I did not too long ago. Again, once you have the top cover back on, you can't really notice it since it is all dark. And they are already exposed on the very bottom anyway showing the green PCB so only the corners are needed done in this case. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tweety Posted November 26, 2019 Author Share Posted November 26, 2019 7 hours ago, -^CrossBow^- said: Doesn't really look any different from the outward appearance as I said. It is better than forcing them in until the cherry breaks on the sleeve itself which, is what happened with my daily driver unit and it broke in a few places. Konami carts are bad but so are the Sega shells and Imagic carts can be the worst and those are games you would want to play. Here is one I did not too long ago. Again, once you have the top cover back on, you can't really notice it since it is all dark. And they are already exposed on the very bottom anyway showing the green PCB so only the corners are needed done in this case. Interesting... I'll open up mine tomorrow and take a peek ? in the belly of the beast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tweety Posted November 28, 2019 Author Share Posted November 28, 2019 After opening my 7800, did a quick study, inserted several cartridges, I know why now.... Just don't understand, why the tight fit, even some original 7800 games are just fitting in that slot and still I have to push hard and then pulling them out is not as easy as the 2600. Thank you all for the comments and information, I can say again that I've learned something again ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DrVenkman Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 For the most part, if I want to play 2600 games in my 7800, I use my Harmony Cart and avoid the issue. As noted above, this issue also affects some Sixers. But my daily-drivers are UAV-modded - a 4-Switch Woody and similarly-equipped 7800, both connected via to a real CRT. That way I don’t have to try to force carts in when the fit is too tight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tweety Posted December 8, 2019 Author Share Posted December 8, 2019 On 11/24/2019 at 1:09 AM, -^CrossBow^- said: I use a dremel and route out the corners of the cartridge sleeve about 3/4 an inch or so from the bottom up. That removes enough to allow all the carts to fit without looking too obvious on first glance unless you look inside the cartridge slot really well. Well, I did what I said I would not do. Bought a cheap dremel type tool and did some grinding. The Cartridges now fit easily in the slot, no more squeezing the cartridge into the slot, sometimes I was afraid to crack the board.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+-^CrossBow^- Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 8 hours ago, Tweety said: Well, I did what I said I would not do. Bought a cheap dremel type tool and did some grinding. The Cartridges now fit easily in the slot, no more squeezing the cartridge into the slot, sometimes I was afraid to crack the board.. I really isn't that noticable if you did it the way I suggested but just routing out the corners. Also helps if you remove the sleeve from the main board which, I'm assuming you did? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NISMOPC Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 On 12/8/2019 at 4:53 PM, -^CrossBow^- said: I really isn't that noticable if you did it the way I suggested but just routing out the corners. Also helps if you remove the sleeve from the main board which, I'm assuming you did? I have two 7800's. One minty fresh fully boxed unit (w/larger opening) that I do not use and one that is my daily and has the tight cartridge slot. I opened it up and the cartridge sleeve is not removable. It appears that you should be able to by releasing the clips under the board, but the cartridge slot itself is screwed to the the sleeve from under then soldered to the board. Unless I am missing something, I see no way to remove the sleeve without desoldering the entire slot from board. Suggestions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+-^CrossBow^- Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 The cart sleeve is not attached to the cartridge port. It only sits over it. There are two screws that are covered with small squares of masking tape (Usually) one on either side to the left and right of the release tabs. You remove those screws and then press in on the tabs to remove the cartridge sleeve. That is all that needs to be removed to be modified in the manner I stated. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NISMOPC Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 15 hours ago, -^CrossBow^- said: There are two screws that are covered with small squares of masking tape... Did not even notice that! Just got done dremeling the corners and all back together now. Slot is smooth as snot ?. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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