0078265317 Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 https://www.ebay.com/itm/Twin-Famicom-Disk-System-Sharp-Game-Console-Gray-AN-500B-Sold-As-Is/274297795497?hash=item3fdd6c33a9:g:bygAAOSwiMteYi91 Twins are not cheap on Ebay. Even junk twins like the above link. I sent a message. He probably won't go any lower. But not only twins I see lots of junk famicoms and other systems that are not working. Junk means not working and probably not fixable. And in some cases def not fixable at all. I mean if its not working or fixable then its useless. I mean just to put on a shelf and let people stare at it its not worth it as some are listed. Or for spare parts. The shell only if tis in mint condition. And the internals not much unless specific parts from the motherboard like ram is needed. And even then no guarantee it works. I mean if its broken it will usually cost more to fix than its worth. So even if its rare if its broken is not worth such a high price. So how do people determine such a high price? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Pendleton Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 Go check the prices of junk PC Engine LTs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0078265317 Posted March 7, 2020 Author Share Posted March 7, 2020 Yes but the question is why? Junk is useless and should be priced accordingly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keatah Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 It's priced that way because some flunk is gonna pay for it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Pendleton Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 (edited) Junk is not useless if it can be repaired or salvaged for parts to fix another broken thing. I would gladly pay 10000 yen for a broken PC Engine GT and get it repaired for another 10000~20000, which is far less than the typical asking price of 40000~80000 yen for a functional one that probably needs a recap in the first place. I almost did this a few months ago but got outbid. Same with the PC Engine LT, as well. Now, this does assume it's something that can be repaired, of course. Edited March 7, 2020 by Steven Pendleton 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derFunkenstein Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 Yeah, if you have the skills, flipping one of those "junk" consoles is profitable and it brings a previously dead system back into service. Just because I don't have the skills doesn't mean SOMEONE doesn't. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Pendleton Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 (edited) About those junk PC Engine LTs I mentioned... I see a lot of junk PC Engine LTs that are sold as junk because the owner doesn't have any PC Engine games to test it with, so they can't assume that it works properly. Are they junk? Maybe, but maybe not. They are sold as junk, but they may be 100% functional. Risky, but they should not be hard to repair. I know there is a shop in Kyoto that specializes in fixing broken PC Engine LTs and GTs. On the subject of the GT, lots of the junk PC Engine GTs have no sound, which can possibly be fixed with just a simple recap. Here is an untested GT sold as junk. Is it? Nobody knows. I may very well pick this one up if it's still there when I get paid and nobody else does. There is one that is a similar price in town without the TV tuner that I tested and know works, though, so that one would be my first choice. This is still a good option, though. https://www.ebay.com/itm/PC-Engine-GT-Console-TVtuner-NEC-PI-TG6-PI-AD11-Untested-Junk/233516391106?epid=111031773&hash=item365ea95ac2:g:orYAAOSwqIJeYeCI Edited March 7, 2020 by Steven Pendleton 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clong80 Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 You can fix 98% of this kind of stuff. Especially older stuff with no moving parts. I can usually make 100 to 300% profit off broken eletronics and generally don't have to spend more then a couple dollars if I need to buy parts. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoshiChiri Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 It's worth noting that the person doing the selling may not be knowledgeable enough to troubleshoot even a basic issue & conclude the unit's busted when it's not. I once gave a friend a Dreamcast I found cheap at a thrift store. She called me later to say it wasn't working. I came over- she didn't have the power cord all the way in. Heck, I just sold an SNES here a few weeks ago with a 'dead' AC adapter. Didn't work on the one for sale, didn't work on my deck, put it in the box when I sold it anyway... buyer said it's fine. I have no idea what happened there- maybe the mailman jostled a loose connection back together. Worked out great for my buyer! I've seen plenty of youtube videos of guys buying lots of broken consoles, and discovering the only issue on many of them was dirty connectors. If you have the means, it can be worth your time. Plus, if you have the means it's probably something you enjoy doing, so the chance to tinker could be worth the cost by itself. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Pendleton Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 I wouldn't be surprised if the problems with a lot of these "junk" systems are just that the cart slot or even the carts themselves are dirty and the seller has no idea what they are doing and don't think to clean the cart slot/carts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0078265317 Posted March 7, 2020 Author Share Posted March 7, 2020 Yes exactly. But sometimes its not fixable. And then you wasted your money. Or it cost more to fix than its worth. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatPix Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 The problem I see here is that 99$ is the price for a working Sharp Twin Famicom... (working on the cart part)... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0078265317 Posted March 7, 2020 Author Share Posted March 7, 2020 27 minutes ago, CatPix said: The problem I see here is that 99$ is the price for a working Sharp Twin Famicom... (working on the cart part)... No its not working. He said. TV Screen always gets gray when turns on. (You can not play any cartridge or disk system) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatPix Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 I meant that 99$ is the price for a working Twin Fami so that junk system is indeed totally a silly buy. And I wanted to say that it's the price for a Sharp Twin working on the cart side, but not on the disk drive side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0078265317 Posted March 7, 2020 Author Share Posted March 7, 2020 Nothing on ebay under 100. 150 is the cheapest working I see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatPix Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 https://www.ebay.com/itm/Sharp-Twin-Famicom-console-New-Belt-Super-Mario-Bros-2-Work-Japan-Import/274265426122?hash=item3fdb7e48ca:g:N2UAAOSw0dZeKcwr Gotta be patient. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0078265317 Posted March 7, 2020 Author Share Posted March 7, 2020 WOW awesome but that ended 2/18. Have never seen it so cheap before. Right now nothing that cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0078265317 Posted March 7, 2020 Author Share Posted March 7, 2020 Speaking of junk. Interesting video of a guy who fixed his junk 2600. What a difference. So some things are worth fixing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacecadet Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 19 hours ago, 0078265317 said: Yes but the question is why? Junk is useless and should be priced accordingly. "Junk" means something different in Japan than it does here, and you are talking about a listing from a Japanese seller. He has at least tried to use the local parlance by also saying "As Is", which is what "junk" actually means in Japan. It doesn't mean it's useless or even that it necessarily has anything wrong with it. This one seems to have some kind of output problem, but the "junk" description just means he has gone no further in diagnosing it and won't take any more responsibility for it. It could be a bad cable for all anyone knows. I have bought plenty of "junk" items in Japan that had absolutely nothing wrong with them. All it usually means is "untested, as is". Also the reason it's $99 is obvious. The shipping is free and he's shipping it from Japan. So the actual price is more like $50. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0078265317 Posted March 7, 2020 Author Share Posted March 7, 2020 4 minutes ago, spacecadet said: "Junk" means something different in Japan than it does here, and you are talking about a listing from a Japanese seller. He has at least tried to use the local parlance by also saying "As Is", which is what "junk" actually means in Japan. It doesn't mean it's useless or even that it necessarily has anything wrong with it. This one seems to have some kind of output problem, but the "junk" description just means he has gone no further in diagnosing it and won't take any more responsibility for it. It could be a bad cable for all anyone knows. I have bought plenty of "junk" items in Japan that had absolutely nothing wrong with them. All it usually means is "untested, as is". Also the reason it's $99 is obvious. The shipping is free and he's shipping it from Japan. So the actual price is more like $50. So $99 is not worth it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatPix Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 I didn't noticed the free shipping. I never noticed the "Junk" but yeah many Japanese sellers do'nt bother and just drop items "untested" on auctions. Sometime you win, sometime you lose, sometime you get what you paid for. Had a few surprises like that - buying a IFU30 and seeign that the seller sold it with a Cd-Rom² unit inside. I had bough one on the side. Ironically, the "free" one worked after replacing the unfamous rotten gear. The untested one I got on the side probably had a bad laser and never worked. Heh! Got a "non working" Neo Geo CD from Japan for 55$. Turns out the very weak and crappy contact for the closed door was bent. I un-bent it and bam, working again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0078265317 Posted March 8, 2020 Author Share Posted March 8, 2020 The ebay guy twin famicom first post 99 dollars. I asked if he would do any lower. He just replied. He said how about 5%. That is only 5 bucks. I can't believe people think broken thing are worth so much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Pendleton Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 (edited) As has been pointed out, $99 for a Twin Famicom is not much lower than the price of a functional one after you consider the exchange rate: https://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/offer-listing/B0001PWF1G/ref=dp_olp_used?ie=UTF8&condition=used I am not sure of what he wants for shipping, though. The real crime here is that I can't buy this from him: Edited March 8, 2020 by Steven Pendleton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0078265317 Posted March 8, 2020 Author Share Posted March 8, 2020 Free shipping. https://www.ebay.com/itm/274297944965 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Pendleton Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 I can't see it, as I live in Japan and he doesn't ship to Japan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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