No One You Know Posted September 3, 2020 Share Posted September 3, 2020 On 9/1/2020 at 5:30 AM, karri said: The word rtfm is meant to be part of this so-called humour that was very common in the old days. Even dead serious companies like IBM had sayings like "you can wear any colour suit, as long as it's black". Even the installation manual contained hacker jokes like "don't force it, use a bigger hammer". Everything is not to be understood literally. Hackers of the time found these small sayings funny. Today you may still have a chance to meet some of the hacker legends that occasionally lurk in these developer forums. I suppose the RTFM wasn't quite used in what seems to be the normal context (to do with the manual but not just a load of things the manual would tell you it you know what I mean) so I suppose it was meant to be humourous - "you'll get it if you just look" so I might have interpreted that wrong thanks to the limitations of text. I feel like that is even the kind of thing one of my other friends who is younger than me would say today (RTFM). On 8/30/2020 at 7:06 AM, 42bs said: The developers where hackers (IMHO) and the ones writing for the Lynx 1989 where hackers two. Ever looked at a Howard board? As for "sharq", RTFM ? I looked at the manual and yes, it says "best mnemonic" for sharq, which proves your point of it having informal content, though it is just one instance in a reasonably long manual. Now I read more of the lynx manual (the main bit I had read before was the bit about sound where the guy keeps talking in first person, making comments like about how he hates music etc, and the "be cheap" repeated) I realise that most of it is written formally, so like in the Jag manual it is just a relatively small part of it that is as informal as that, though not quite as small. The "dos and don'ts" bit is informal too but I didn't feel that was quite on a level with the audio section. So I apologise for taking you on this tangent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
42bs Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 16 hours ago, No One You Know said: The "dos and don'ts" bit is informal too but I didn't feel that was quite on a level with the audio section. So I apologise for taking you on this tangent. As I wrote, it was written by hackers for hackers. But no problem. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No One You Know Posted September 4, 2020 Share Posted September 4, 2020 4 hours ago, 42bs said: As I wrote, it was written by hackers for hackers. But no problem. I suppose. It just surprised me that any company would allow that in an official document, but I suppose epyx were a relatively small games company. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+karri Posted September 5, 2020 Share Posted September 5, 2020 10 hours ago, No One You Know said: I suppose. It just surprised me that any company would allow that in an official dow I was in charge of the developement of the software and processing of a MRI scanner in the 80's. As I wrote the manual I added some legalese in tiny letters and set as the last sentence "Any resemblance of this manual with the real product is purely co-incidental". Years later when the product had been sold in thousands I happened to get my hands on the printed manual and the sentence was still there. It had passed the quality assurance and even an upgrade to the next model. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nop90 Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 Voting time is over. We should have the results soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drludos Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 Cool! I saw that the competition reached 99 votes in total, which seems quite a lot (almost 100!). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordKraken Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 Does it means 99 voters or 99 / 6 = approx. 16 voters? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadest Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 Between 15 and 18 votes per game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Igor Posted September 15, 2020 Author Share Posted September 15, 2020 The results are in - https://atarigamer.com/lynx/event/Lynx2020ProgrammingCompetition/5744555538251776 As I mentioned previously, the number of votes per game will not be used to adjust the score. There was between 15 and 18 votes per game so that's quite close enough for good results. It was quite a close one, but well done everybody! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo Laser Lynx Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 (edited) Congrats Nop90 for well deserved first place and congrats + thanks to everyone that participated and brought new games to the Lynx, really nice lineup of games! ? Edited September 15, 2020 by Turbo Laser Lynx 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drludos Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 Thanks a lot Igor for the detailed results! Congrats everyone on your high score, this was indeed a close one! My hat's off to Nop90 and RetroGuru for a well deserved 1st place! I'm also happy to see that Asteroids Chasers (my personal favorite for this compo) did get a lot of well deserved praise too. And thanks everyone for enjoying my entry, I wasn't excepting Timeloop to rank up so high! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nop90 Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 Added the competition results on Demozoo and Pouet 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Igor Posted September 15, 2020 Author Share Posted September 15, 2020 So, now, who is ready for the next one? ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drludos Posted September 15, 2020 Share Posted September 15, 2020 33 minutes ago, Igor said: So, now, who is ready for the next one? ? Count me in! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+karri Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 5 hours ago, Igor said: So, now, who is ready for the next one? ? Thanks for organizing nice compos. I will focus on Silly Ventures next. And after that I take a break from compos. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordKraken Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 (edited) So do we know for sure there will be sv2020 with a lynx competition this time again? Edit: Google is my friend, so yes and yes. Even seem that the physical event is still on actually. Anyone thinking of going? Edited September 16, 2020 by LordKraken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+karri Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 2 hours ago, LordKraken said: So do we know for sure there will be sv2020 with a lynx competition this time again? Edit: Google is my friend, so yes and yes. Even seem that the physical event is still on actually. Anyone thinking of going? I have my flight tickets and a room booked for 4 nights. But... Depending on the pandemic I may have to cancel everything. PS. I am also hoping to create a new gaming jukebox for the event. Similar to the one I had at Portland a year ago. And the SV2020 themed version: 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordKraken Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 There is a theme? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+karri Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 1 minute ago, LordKraken said: There is a theme? Let's say Silly Ventures appears to have a certain flavour. If you look at past pictures and events there is a bit more beer around. But there is no compo "theme". The winning titles had a bit assembly/demo feeling in them. SillySis with clean graphics and piano-ragtime was an odd kid of the block. One game compo entry was showing a looong hummer. The audience was laughing so I Googled this. In 2018 Silly Ventures they used a hummer to take SV2018 participants to an "Ultrcyd concert at Angels Club". So it may be a bit different from eJagfest where the only choice was to cross the road to buy a pizza... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordKraken Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 Yeah the rules for the atari lynx compo seem to similar to last year: There are no rules Not sure if I like it or dislike it. On one hand it's cool you can prepare for a full year, on the other hand it takes some of the creative fun part away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agradeneu Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 4 hours ago, karri said: Let's say Silly Ventures appears to have a certain flavour. If you look at past pictures and events there is a bit more beer around. But there is no compo "theme". The winning titles had a bit assembly/demo feeling in them. SillySis with clean graphics and piano-ragtime was an odd kid of the block. One game compo entry was showing a looong hummer. The audience was laughing so I Googled this. In 2018 Silly Ventures they used a hummer to take SV2018 participants to an "Ultrcyd concert at Angels Club". So it may be a bit different from eJagfest where the only choice was to cross the road to buy a pizza... The quality level of the Lynx entries were extremely high, even compared to the Lynx 30th compo. Sillyventure looks to me like a very profilic compo, with usually the best of the Atari demo scene participating. But I have a slight issue to compete with ports of popular IPs (no matter how impressive they are), generally there should be a limitation regarding ports of established or finished games. It's a bit unfair for those that try to create a game/ demo from the ground up. Creativity and originality should be a priorety. Just my 2 cents. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
42bs Posted September 16, 2020 Share Posted September 16, 2020 13 minutes ago, agradeneu said: t's a bit unfair for those that try to create a game/ demo from the ground up A reason why I like the 128/256 bytes compos. Though it is also unfair if you compete with x86 demos (mighty CISC vs. RISC like). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Igor Posted September 17, 2020 Author Share Posted September 17, 2020 @karri we all know you said you won't participate this year either, but you did See you in the next compo! ? I had a request to put a short compo on this year, but I think that I don't want to have too much on at the end of the year with SV on, maybe if I put on a mini-jam in January, it will be a 2 week maximum thing, and it will have an emphasis on mini. Thoughts? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordKraken Posted September 17, 2020 Share Posted September 17, 2020 Mini jam with short deadline and strict theme to put everyone on the same level sounds like a good idea 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Igor Posted September 18, 2020 Author Share Posted September 18, 2020 What about timing? Is Jan/Feb good? Or should I wait until...JUST BEFORE APRIL and the theme could be "Fooling around with Lynx" ? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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