_The Doctor__ Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 Funny as I read all of this, I heard the phrase 'You can't take it with you...' strange inheritance is a show we watch. It's a legacy in one form or another, each generation builds on the other. In earnest, I want you to know that what I finalized my post with is exactly how so many feel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DrVenkman Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 Holy shit, everyone. This is supposed to be a hobby that people actually enjoy. The world is in rough enough shape currently and I doubt many of us come to AtariAge to get more of the same that we see in the news right now. Thanks for the cool new utility, Thom, and thanks Jon and Konrad for all the rest of the software you have provided and continue to provide to the community. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drac030 Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 Perhaps tschak909 is right that I was missing the point, but I did not take this conversation as anything else than a conversation where we perhaps disagree (on the releasing the sources or not), but well, where it is said that everyone has always agree with everything... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tschak909 Posted April 8, 2020 Author Share Posted April 8, 2020 sorry, I started a row. My bad. -Thom 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drac030 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 Nothing to be sorry about, IMHO 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Larry Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 Some of you might be interested in this INSIGHT: Atari column from (the late) Bill Wilkinson: https://www.atarimagazines.com/compute/issue65/insight_atari.php This was my first introduction to the Percom Block. -Larry Edit: found a copy of Bill's BASIC program in my archives. Pretty sure it is a type-in version, so treat it with caution if you play around with it. Percom Block from Insight Atari.atr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drac030 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 (edited) Quote 5 1 Density (0=Single, 4=Double) (...) For the Density byte of the config block, I don't know of any drives which use values other than 0 (FM mode, single density) or 4 (MFM mode, double density). If you find a drive that actually uses some other value (not just ignores it), let me know. I do not know such drives either, but, for some reason, the SDX Formatter, when you select 77 tracks, sets bit 1 in this byte, making it $02 for FM and $06 for MFM. And it has been doing so since ICD times, to be sure. So there may be a bit more to it. Edited April 8, 2020 by drac030 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_The Doctor__ Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 |\O/| | / \ 8 inch drives, 3.5 inch drives possibly... there were others as well, but certainly not the paper tape reader... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E474 Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 Hi, I wouldn't mind a copy of the sources. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phaeron Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 13 hours ago, drac030 said: I do not know such drives either, but, for some reason, the SDX Formatter, when you select 77 tracks, sets bit 1 in this byte, making it $02 for FM and $06 for MFM. And it has been doing so since ICD times, to be sure. So there may be a bit more to it. The Percom RFD40-S1 and the ATR8000 switch to 8" mode when bit 1 is set, doubling the FDC clock speed and the bit rate. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_The Doctor__ Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 Thanks for confirmation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drac030 Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 15 hours ago, phaeron said: The Percom RFD40-S1 and the ATR8000 switch to 8" mode when bit 1 is set, doubling the FDC clock speed and the bit rate. Does RFD40-S1 also respect the field which in the article quoted above is labelled "ACIA" and supposedly controls the transmission parameters on the drive's side? If so, how does it work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phaeron Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 1 hour ago, drac030 said: Does RFD40-S1 also respect the field which in the article quoted above is labelled "ACIA" and supposedly controls the transmission parameters on the drive's side? If so, how does it work? This byte is not used in any Percom firmware that I have seen so far (RFD V1.00-1.20, AT-88, AT88-SPD V1.11-1.21), nor in the ATR8000. In Percom drives, the 12 byte block is directly mirrored from the firmware's internal DCB with no translation and little to no checking. In the RFD firmware, the last three bytes are simply uninitialized and unused, while AT-88 firmwares initialize byte 9 to $51 but still don't use it. $51 is the configuration value used to initialize the 6850 ACIA. It corresponds to receive IRQs disabled, /RTS high, transmit IRQs disabled, 8 data bits + 2 stop bits, and /16 clock divider. However, all firmwares that I have seen hardcode this value in the initialization routine and don't read it from the DCB. There's very little that could be done with this value anyway as the 6850 transmit/receive clock is hardwired to 4MHz / 13 = 307KHz; the only lower divider is /1 and that is unusable with asynchronous transmission. Only the AT88-S1PD/SPD has high speed capability by switching to SIO CLOCK OUT as the external clock, which requires special setup on the computer side incompatible with US Doubler style high-speed and it isn't used by the firmware anyway. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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