leech Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 So I just opened the NIB Atari Okimate 10 Plug N Print box to set up my Okimate 20. Well low and behold, they are not compatible with each other... the internal connector for the Plug N Print boards are off centered from each other. So for now the Okimate 20 is for the C64... But now I have the software that comes with the Okimate 10 Plug N Print, in both Floppy disk and Tape form. While I do have a 1010 and 410, I haven't tested to see if they work yet... and I have two 1050s, one which worked the last time I used it (which amazed me) which could use a good cleaning, and another that is untested. So if we're missing the image of this, then I could definitely try to copy it. I do have the Happy upgrade for one of the 1050s, I just haven't installed it yet, as I wanted to do a cleaning first. So the question is, really do I just use q-tips and isopropyl on both the heads and floppy disk? What's the best method to use to copy from real floppy drive to ATR? I mean I guess I could create a blank ATR, slap it on the Biggus Dickus, then mount that as D2: and use the happy copier for a 'pure' image. Though I doubt something like that has a copy protection on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DrVenkman Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 24 minutes ago, leech said: So the question is, really do I just use q-tips and isopropyl on both the heads and floppy disk? What's the best method to use to copy from real floppy drive to ATR? I mean I guess I could create a blank ATR, slap it on the Biggus Dickus, then mount that as D2: and use the happy copier for a 'pure' image. Though I doubt something like that has a copy protection on it. Iso on a Q-tip for the floppy drive head, yes. For the floppy disk itself, no! You'll clean the magnetic media right off the Mylar disk. If the disk is copy-protected, you really want to get a flux image of the thing via something like a SuperCopy Pro or Kyroflux-equipped drive. If it's not copy-protected, than just use a sector copier running on your Atari to read the original disk and write the copy back to an ATR mounted to something like RespeQt on a PC or an SIO2SD, SDrive-Max or whatever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leech Posted June 13, 2020 Author Share Posted June 13, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, DrVenkman said: Iso on a Q-tip for the floppy drive head, yes. For the floppy disk itself, no! You'll clean the magnetic media right off the Mylar disk. If the disk is copy-protected, you really want to get a flux image of the thing via something like a SuperCopy Pro or Kyroflux-equipped drive. If it's not copy-protected, than just use a sector copier running on your Atari to read the original disk and write the copy back to an ATR mounted to something like RespeQt on a PC or an SIO2SD, SDrive-Max or whatever. Ha, in the past we used to use q-tip + alcohol on the floppy disks (had jam on one at one point "Lonestar! Only he would dare give me the raspberry!") But then that was when they were new and not sitting in a box for ~30 years. Edit: Indeed, that is what this page suggests as well http://retrotechnology.com/herbs_stuff/clean_disks.html Edited June 13, 2020 by leech Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamm Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 I really doubt it has any copy protection on it - they were trying to sell printers, after all, not printing software. Really curious to see what's on there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leech Posted June 13, 2020 Author Share Posted June 13, 2020 It has the larges disk label I have ever seen. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leech Posted June 13, 2020 Author Share Posted June 13, 2020 Oh, that was just an insert. Here is the actual disk label. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamm Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 Just now, leech said: Oh, that was just an insert. Here is the actual disk label. Ooh - that brings up some ancient memories! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamm Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 10 minutes ago, leech said: It has the larges disk label I have ever seen. Call Okidata and tell them you need a DOS 3 compatible disk! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leech Posted June 14, 2020 Author Share Posted June 14, 2020 Here we go! Note, it said there were two CRC errors on Side A. Okimate Color Screen Print (Side A).atr Okimate Color Screen Print (Side B).atr 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Allan Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 The disk that I have has the DOS 3 version on the back. Both as well as all the manuals are on Atarimania. http://www.atarimania.com/utility-atari-400-800-xl-xe-okimate-10-atari-software_33598.html 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Allan Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 I hope the FujiNet people make a printer emulator for the Okimate 10. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leech Posted June 14, 2020 Author Share Posted June 14, 2020 Just now, Allan said: I hope the FujiNet people make a printer emulator for the Okimate 10. Agreed. Now I need to figure out how to get my Okimate 20 to work... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leech Posted June 14, 2020 Author Share Posted June 14, 2020 8 minutes ago, Allan said: The disk that I have has the DOS 3 version on the back. Both as well as all the manuals are on Atarimania. http://www.atarimania.com/utility-atari-400-800-xl-xe-okimate-10-atari-software_33598.html Huh, each of the disk sides have different files on mine. Quote Side A AUTO.BIN CINSTRCT COLOR DESERT.PIC LEARN PRINT.BIN SCRN.BIN WORD.BIN Quote Side B ADECCO.A ADVPAPER BWDEMO.SEQ CHGSIZE COLOR1 COLOR2 COLOR3 GRAPH.PIC JBIRD1.PIC JBIRD2.PIC LEARN LINESPC.SEQ MARGIN.SEQ PRGLIST SCRN821.SEQ SNDATA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Allan Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 Just now, leech said: Agreed. Now I need to figure out how to get my Okimate 20 to work... Since there was never an Atari 8-bit interface, you'll have to use the ST interface which would have to be a standard parallel port and write your own printer driver. There might be a very very small chance someone did that back in the late Eighties/early Nineties but I doubt it. I have never seen one. And finding if it if true won't be easy. It would be great if you could figure it out though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamm Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 7 minutes ago, Allan said: I hope the FujiNet people make a printer emulator for the Okimate 10. It'd be handy to have some scanned print-outs of the different text modes it supports so that the look can be properly emulated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leech Posted June 14, 2020 Author Share Posted June 14, 2020 1 minute ago, Allan said: Since there was never an Atari 8-bit interface, you'll have to use the ST interface which would have to be a standard parallel port and write your own printer driver. There might be a very very small chance someone did that back in the late Eighties/early Nineties but I doubt it. I have never seen one. And finding if it if true won't be easy. It would be great if you could figure it out though. I guess the real question would be, is there a difference between say the ST interface and the Amiga one? (I mean I have a couple different ways to print to a Centronics printer, if that's all those are). I thought for sure since it has a C64 interface, they had made an Atari one for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Allan Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 1 minute ago, leech said: I guess the real question would be, is there a difference between say the ST interface and the Amiga one? (I mean I have a couple different ways to print to a Centronics printer, if that's all those are). I thought for sure since it has a C64 interface, they had made an Atari one for them. No, they gave up on the our little Atari 8-bit. I will try to find out if there were different interfaces for the ST and Amiga. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leech Posted June 14, 2020 Author Share Posted June 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, Allan said: No, they gave up on the our little Atari 8-bit. I will try to find out if there were different interfaces for the ST and Amiga. I found a driver for the Amiga on ebay for sale, but it wasn't the actual interface. Ha, and here I thought they'd save some $$$ and just make the 20 and 10 use the same interfaces... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle22 Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 All I get is Boot Error and bullshit. Does anyone know how to use this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leech Posted June 14, 2020 Author Share Posted June 14, 2020 3 hours ago, Kyle22 said: All I get is Boot Error and bullshit. Does anyone know how to use this? You have to load a DOS up first. Sounds like the manual is up on Atari Age. I saw one of the programs was 'LEARN' and another was 'COLOR'. If the manual there is different to the one I have, I will see about scanning it in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Allan Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 As far as I can tell there was only one manual. I scanned everything that came with my printer package and put it up on Atarimania and archive.org. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Allan Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 I even scanned the box. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leech Posted June 14, 2020 Author Share Posted June 14, 2020 Yeah, I am betting they are identical. Mine just says to insert DOS master disk 2.x. so wasn't sure if they had updated that with a 3.x. I doubt they did. But the manual does have the instructions on how to use it, surprising, I know! ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DjayBee Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 6 hours ago, Allan said: I even scanned the box. ROFL, interesting fact for a peripheral targeted at Atari computers: "The OKIMATE 10 color ribbon lets you print Commodore's 16 screen colors" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamm Posted June 14, 2020 Share Posted June 14, 2020 I'm impressed they went to the trouble of making a tape version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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