JaggingUK Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 Why would anyone bother selling repos/pirate copies of these games when the games are all still readily available... Okay he is selling others like Air Cars, Mad Bodies and BSG that may be harder to find but do these games really need someone selling repros at £45 each... Okay some of the 17 or so for sale may be hard to find but Ultra Vortex, Fight 4 Life and Double Dragon I would think are not... Seems crazy that people are starting to copy even the lesser value games... I look forward to seeing Brutal Sports Football and Chequered Flag pop up in the coming weeks! https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ULTRA-VORTEK-ATARI-JAGUAR-REPRODUCTION-PAL-BOXED-WITH-INSTRUCTIONS/133575510279?hash=item1f19b88907:g:Uq0AAOSwq~xfr88j https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FIGHT-4-LIFE-ATARI-JAGUAR-REPRODUCTION-PAL-BOXED-WITH-INSTRUCTIONS/133575511151?hash=item1f19b88c6f:g:tvwAAOSww2Zfr8wy https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DOUBLE-DRAGON-V-ATARI-JAGUAR-REPRODUCTION-PAL-BOXED-WITH-INSTRUCTIONS/133575514409?hash=item1f19b89929:g:J5gAAOSwYHFfr9EB 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaggingUK Posted November 18, 2020 Author Share Posted November 18, 2020 And hopefully people don't think I'm advertising these games by putting up this listing - maybe someone will see one or two they have the I.P for and ask him to stop selling them (not sure who own Aircars these days) - I do think it is worth highlighting the rise in pirate/repro Jag games as it does reduce the value of the games we own if we over come to sell them at some point if the pirates/repros are of very good quality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Biff Burgertime Posted November 18, 2020 Share Posted November 18, 2020 54 minutes ago, JaggingUK said: Why would anyone bother selling... Because someone is willing to buy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Sauron Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 1 hour ago, JaggingUK said: And hopefully people don't think I'm advertising these games by putting up this listing - maybe someone will see one or two they have the I.P for and ask him to stop selling them (not sure who own Aircars these days) - I do think it is worth highlighting the rise in pirate/repro Jag games as it does reduce the value of the games we own if we over come to sell them at some point if the pirates/repros are of very good quality. Nothing is going to reduce the price of commercial era Jag games, unfortunately, as many of them are getting harder to find, due to the huge increase in demand from collectors. I've got no problem with commercial era game repros being sold. What I do have a problem with, though, is when these shady Etsy and eBay shops start selling repros of homebrews and post-commercial era games, which is far more common. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tripled79 Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 On 11/18/2020 at 4:58 PM, JaggingUK said: Why would anyone bother selling repos/pirate copies of these games when the games are all still readily available... Okay he is selling others like Air Cars, Mad Bodies and BSG that may be harder to find but do these games really need someone selling repros at £45 each... Okay some of the 17 or so for sale may be hard to find but Ultra Vortex, Fight 4 Life and Double Dragon I would think are not... Seems crazy that people are starting to copy even the lesser value games... I look forward to seeing Brutal Sports Football and Chequered Flag pop up in the coming weeks! https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ULTRA-VORTEK-ATARI-JAGUAR-REPRODUCTION-PAL-BOXED-WITH-INSTRUCTIONS/133575510279?hash=item1f19b88907:g:Uq0AAOSwq~xfr88j https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FIGHT-4-LIFE-ATARI-JAGUAR-REPRODUCTION-PAL-BOXED-WITH-INSTRUCTIONS/133575511151?hash=item1f19b88c6f:g:tvwAAOSww2Zfr8wy https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DOUBLE-DRAGON-V-ATARI-JAGUAR-REPRODUCTION-PAL-BOXED-WITH-INSTRUCTIONS/133575514409?hash=item1f19b89929:g:J5gAAOSwYHFfr9EB I wouldn't say Ultra Vortek or Double Dragon V are readily available. At least I haven't seen these games at a remotely reasonable price for the last 15 years... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 (edited) N/A Edited November 20, 2020 by Machine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agradeneu Posted November 22, 2020 Share Posted November 22, 2020 blah blah... double standards...blah blah 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyper_Eye Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 I think the most important question is... why in the world would someone go to the trouble of reproducing Double Dragon V? 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juansolo Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 I'm after picking up a Super Burnout cart at the moment and I noticed there was a repro of that up for £40 here in the UK. Which is about what SB goes for as an original. I don't really see the point of a repro that costs just as much as the real thing, but isn't. I find the whole thing odd. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+LS650 Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 Honestly I think £40 for a Super Burnout, at least complete with box and manual, would be an unusually low price. Funny, because I bought it back in the early 2000s for $20 US... It's a bit sad how much the prices have soared, and are shutting out folks who just want to play the games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leech Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 And then you have people like this... https://www.ebay.com/itm/Air-Cars-Atari-Jaguar-Original-Instruction-Manual-Complete-Yours-aircars-/322215475578?_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49292 Seems a tad high for a manual, eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+LS650 Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 $115 US for an AirCars manual.... ? Well, he can ask - it doesn't mean he's actually going to get $115. One annoyance I've noticed is that the same seller will part out a game. Instead of one auction for a complete game, he'll have three separate auctions for the cartridge, the manual, and the box. Sometimes there's a fourth auction for the overlay too! I guess there's more profit to be made when the items are parted out like that... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyper_Eye Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 4 hours ago, leech said: And then you have people like this... https://www.ebay.com/itm/Air-Cars-Atari-Jaguar-Original-Instruction-Manual-Complete-Yours-aircars-/322215475578?_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49292 Seems a tad high for a manual, eh? I have a spare AirCars manual. If anyone wants it it's $10+postage. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leech Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 2 hours ago, Hyper_Eye said: I have a spare AirCars manual. If anyone wants it it's $10+postage. Can't help but think it would be hilarious if someone could cheaply mass produce some of this stuff and just madly undercut the prices of these things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
str0m Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 Seller linked in original post has loads more reproduction listings now including Tempest, AvP, Another World etc, not too clued up but I thought the latter was very limited release and so his ones are very suspect? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerosquare Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 (edited) Definitely not a legit copy. I've forwarded the link to the author of the port. Edited December 11, 2020 by Zerosquare 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoboz Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 I guess the best way to battle this is for the owners of the rights (to these games), is to keep selling them (at a reasonable price) 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+-^CrossBow^- Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 Virtual VCS? I'm pretty sure on the actual protos of that, that only Yars was semi playable? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhd Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 On 11/25/2020 at 9:34 AM, ls650 said: One annoyance I've noticed is that the same seller will part out a game. Instead of one auction for a complete game, he'll have three separate auctions for the cartridge, the manual, and the box. Sometimes there's a fourth auction for the overlay too! I guess there's more profit to be made when the items are parted out like that... Speaking as someone who is more of a book collector than a video game collector, this happens all of the time. It is VERY common for illustrated publications to be broken-up and the plates sold separately. The individual plates are collectively worth far more than the complete book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerosquare Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 8 hours ago, phoboz said: I guess the best way to battle this is for the owners of the rights (to these games), is to keep selling them (at a reasonable price) Unfortunately, that won't stop some people from making pirate copies, and other people from buying them. @str0m said above that the guy was selling Tempest 2000 repros, and you can't really argue that Tempest 2000 is hard-to-find or expensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+LS650 Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, Zerosquare said: @str0m said above that the guy was selling Tempest 2000 repros, and you can't really argue that Tempest 2000 is hard-to-find or expensive. I guess that depends on how you define expensive. I just did a search on eBay for Tempest 2000, and the cheapest copy is a BIN for $99 US plus shipping. If you live overseas, you can probably get a knock-off cart of T2K for maybe half that, and the shipping is a lot less. Edited December 12, 2020 by ls650 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zerosquare Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 Wow, $99 for Tempest 2000?! I knew Jaguar prices went up, but I didn't know they went up that much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agradeneu Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 (edited) 11 hours ago, Zerosquare said: Unfortunately, that won't stop some people from making pirate copies, and other people from buying them. @str0m said above that the guy was selling Tempest 2000 repros, and you can't really argue that Tempest 2000 is hard-to-find or expensive. If it was available most people would not buy pirate copies. ? Edited December 12, 2020 by agradeneu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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