leech Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 20 minutes ago, CPUWIZ said: That is certainly a valid option, I thought we were talking about porting. Nah, I was specifically asking about all the Indie devs that have already released on Linux, as that would be really simple to just create a json or xml or whatever they use to display a game on the AtariOS screen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPUWIZ Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 Atari should approach those people, but I don't think they are very serious about it. What they really need, is a good exclusive title, that will make people want to go buy the console. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clint Thompson Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 1 hour ago, CPUWIZ said: What they really need, is a good exclusive title, that will make people want to go buy the console. Almost like a really good exclusive OS that is totally not able to be copied out of the box and used on any other machine? but I know what you're saying and it's bound to happen, it just won't be a very good game. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPUWIZ Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 5 minutes ago, Clint Thompson said: Almost like a really good exclusive OS that is totally not able to be copied out of the box and used on any other machine? I think you have a pretty good idea about what is involved with that, aside from (wo)manpower. If the motherboard is designed properly, this could be done after the fact, but again, I do not believe they are interested in being anything other than a niche product (which is fine). Or has anyone offered to buy them out? All of the backers money went into production and salaries, pretty good guess, I would think. Now what? Any investors banging on the door? Does anyone even know, aside from "I read it on the internet, it must be true!"? Do current stock investors have access to their strategy? Are you wearing underpants? Is this thing on? Hello, operator? I think they should give out all the source and let people go crazy with it, I think it is their last chance to make it something like an expensive PI with more power. I bet the "open architecture" would make many hackers drool and can lead to people making their own bootable games, that you won't just be able to run on a PC. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leech Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 6 minutes ago, CPUWIZ said: I think you have a pretty good idea about what is involved with that, aside from (wo)manpower. If the motherboard is designed properly, this could be done after the fact, but again, I do not believe they are interested in being anything other than a niche product (which is fine). Or has anyone offered to buy them out? All of the backers money went into production and salaries, pretty good guess, I would think. Now what? Any investors banging on the door? Does anyone even know, aside from "I read it on the internet, it must be true!"? Do current stock investors have access to their strategy? Are you wearing underpants? Is this thing on? Hello, operator? I think they should give out all the source and let people go crazy with it, I think it is their last chance to make it something like an expensive PI with more power. I bet the "open architecture" would make many hackers drool and can lead to people making their own bootable games, that you won't just be able to run on a PC. It's almost already open architecture. Making a bootable game would be easy, though I don't know what you could really do (outside of including a unique DRM) to prevent you from being able to copy the game to a running OS and play it. Then again I guess you could get TempleOS on a USB stick with secure boot signed keys and have it boot directly too it without people likely being able to run it on random systems. And no, why would I wear underpants? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leech Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 Was thinking earlier of seeing if I could figure out a 'side-load' method, but realized I couldn't do it with Steam games as they are DRM'd from Steam itself usually, so figured I could grab from GOG's Linux games, and see if I can figure out how the AtariOS games are 'seen' on the launch screen. If I get some time to work on it I'll post results in a new thread, most likely. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+x=usr(1536) Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 7 hours ago, leech said: TempleOS ❤️ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leech Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 Someone should make a game system based on a 386, everything must be written in HolyC and a limit of 16 colors on screen. We can call it InTerryVision. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cebus Capucinis Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 10 hours ago, x=usr(1536) said: ❤️ All the Fs for Terry Davis. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzip Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 On 1/24/2021 at 12:15 AM, CPUWIZ said: How would you personally approach developers, convincing them that it is worth their time and effort? 1.) You can't guarantee hardware sale numbers. 2.) You can't promise that each piece of hardware will purchase said game. 3.) You can't throw money at them, since you don't have it. 4.) Nobody, except nerds know about it, zero advertising, not even during some crap tv-show on a ghetto channel. That leaves smoke & mirrors and rainbow unicorn farts, if you don't want to call it something more common. So what would you try? How about: "We see you are doing a Linux port of your game, why not put it on the VCS store? We don't have that many games which guarantees your game will come up in almost every search, meaning you will sell enough to pay the intern who ported it and have at least enough left over for a six-pack of beer and a bologna sandwich!" 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin34ct Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 It seems ETA Prime on YouTube was able to get into the BIOS with the Password: Piano18482 Try this out. Also change the BIOS password or remove it completely. 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPUWIZ Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andymanone Posted January 27, 2021 Author Share Posted January 27, 2021 15 hours ago, kevin34ct said: It seems ETA Prime on YouTube was able to get into the BIOS with the Password: Piano18482 Try this out. Also change the BIOS password or remove it completely. You´re really, really late to the party ?... 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Middleman Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 I thought to let you guys know, if anyone is planning on booting other OSes I found that the VCS's BIOS actually is only 32-bit firmware. So you may run into some troubles with 64-bit versions (just so you know). 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzip Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 35 minutes ago, Middleman said: I thought to let you guys know, if anyone is planning on booting other OSes I found that the VCS's BIOS actually is only 32-bit firmware. So you may run into some troubles with 64-bit versions (just so you know). Haven't people been running 64-bit OSes so far? A 32-bit OS would generally limit you to using 4Gb RAM I think 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leech Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 25 minutes ago, zzip said: Haven't people been running 64-bit OSes so far? A 32-bit OS would generally limit you to using 4Gb RAM I think I run 64bit Debian fine. UEFI is always 32bit. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andymanone Posted January 27, 2021 Author Share Posted January 27, 2021 25 minutes ago, zzip said: Haven't people been running 64-bit OSes so far? A 32-bit OS would generally limit you to using 4Gb RAM I think Many guys here (including me) have installed a couple of different 64Bit-OS´s successfully on the VCS in the past ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leech Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 10 minutes ago, andymanone said: Many guys here (including me) have installed a couple of different 64Bit-OS´s successfully on the VCS in the past ? Yeah, you can literally look at ANY motherboard and the UEFI is going to be 32bit. I don't think anyone has ever built a 64bit UEFI, there is no point in it. It's not like the UEFI needs more than 4gb and typically making something 64bit will take more space (I've never understood why, but compiling the same software as 32bit and 64bit, the binaries for 64bit are bigger). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacman000 Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 On 1/15/2021 at 9:18 AM, reidacus said: I got in touch with Atari support about the same question and this is the statement I got back. Unfortunately, we are not able to provide you with this information at the moment. As soon as it becomes available to us we will get in touch with you. As soon as it becomes available?... Did they lose piece of paper the password was scribbled on? Frustrating to say the least. Sounds like an automated rseponse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leech Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 23 minutes ago, pacman000 said: Sounds like an automated rseponse. Ha, well it became available whether they wanted it to or not 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Darwin Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 3 hours ago, Middleman said: I thought to let you guys know, if anyone is planning on booting other OSes I found that the VCS's BIOS actually is only 32-bit firmware. So you may run into some troubles with 64-bit versions (just so you know). Linux Mint 64-bit...on the eMMC (later on the M.2 SSD)...since January 2nd ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPUWIZ Posted January 28, 2021 Share Posted January 28, 2021 Mann o'Mann, fast ein ganzer Monat. ? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andymanone Posted January 28, 2021 Author Share Posted January 28, 2021 6 hours ago, CPUWIZ said: Mann o'Mann, fast ein ganzer Monat. ? In unserer heutigen, extrem kurzlebigen Zeit, ist ein Monat schon fast ein Katzenleben ?! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
livingonwheels Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 It also reset my overclock settings (VRAM, MHz, etc). I'm unable to restore my custom settings due to not having the bios password anymore (Piano18482 is no longer the valid password). Also made me reset my Windows 10 password. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toiletunes Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 Try Piano18483 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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