Albert Posted August 15, 2021 Author Share Posted August 15, 2021 1 minute ago, Mclaneinc said: Giving topic starters the ability to censor posts just isn't good, there's many a time when the topic starter has started a semi troll thread. Even if I agreed that this was the way to go, there's no built-in capability in the forum to allow thread starters to moderate their own threads, so it's a moot point. It is possible there's a third-party plugin that allows this, but I haven't looked. I personally think that while the idea has merit, in practice I don't feel it would work very well. 1 minute ago, Mclaneinc said: Also, a mod editing posts to make them ok is just time-consuming and wrong for far too many reasons, removing content ie the whole post is the only way, it sends a clear message that the removed content isn't wanted and posters beware of trying to add it to the thread again. The only time I'll edit others' posts is if they ask me to change something, for instance, editing the topic title. Or removing personal identifying information from a post (someone's real name, email address, phone number, etc.). Otherwise posts are generally just removed in their entirety if the content is inappropriate for whatever reason. ..Al 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emkay Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 5 hours ago, Albert said: Even if I agreed that this was the way to go, there's no built-in capability in the forum to allow thread starters to moderate their own threads, so it's a moot point. It is possible there's a third-party plugin that allows this, but I haven't looked. I personally think that while the idea has merit, in practice I don't feel it would work very well. The only time I'll edit others' posts is if they ask me to change something, for instance, editing the topic title. Or removing personal identifying information from a post (someone's real name, email address, phone number, etc.). Otherwise posts are generally just removed in their entirety if the content is inappropriate for whatever reason. ..Al So just offer rensoup the moderator status. I've not seen a more clear person in this forums. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zbyti Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 17 minutes ago, emkay said: So just offer rensoup the moderator status. I've not seen a more clear person in this forums. If I remember correctly your first entries in his thread, you would also be banned :] But time goes bye and now you are contributor in SFX department Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilsaluki Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 13 minutes ago, zbyti said: If I remember correctly your first entries in his thread, you would also be banned :] But time goes bye and now you are contributor in SFX department DBM... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emkay Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, zbyti said: If I remember correctly your first entries in his thread, you would also be banned :] But time goes bye and now you are contributor in SFX department You mix up things. I never changed my mind and manner. People very often thrilled things up. Actually, If I was a moderator here in the forums, I'd stop people doing double tongued. I'd have no problems with personal opinions, but several poisonous people might need some lections here and there. And, btw. The results have been changed by changing the people who I'm talking to. Edited August 15, 2021 by emkay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zbyti Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 This is funny to me. The guy does the game, tells a few times some peoples that he is not interested in their opinions but these people don't care about it. Developer is no longer needed in this project or what? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rensoup Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 2 hours ago, emkay said: So just offer rensoup the moderator status. I've not seen a more clear person in this forums. Thanks for the suggestion but that's definitely not for me... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Stephen Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 The problem with this, is the pack mentality here. In my 20 years of being on this forum, I have banned 3 members, and only 2 are on now. Every single thread, when one posts, the other one follows up sometimes 3 or 4 deep. Every thread. If one posts, they both do. Pretty odd. Also, even though I have the 2 blocked, every time there is an argument in a thread, those 2 are in there. I know because the block feature on this forum sucks vacuum hard. You block everything, but you can see quotes, mentions, replies, etc. Basically, everything you don't want to. Now - let's say those 2 volunteer (because they seem to have nothing but time to post - more in a year than me in 20). If there opinion was the prevailing one, and they got to moderate and push it, the place would be shit and I would leave after 2 decades. Sad that it has to be this way but with manager's and know-it-all mentality, men in their 50s can't stop the bullshit that I experienced back in the early 80s as a kid on the playground. Oh my god - how dare someone have a different opinion, and mention blue when I like red. 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_The Doctor__ Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 blue and red make purple... yes... Purple rain, Purple reign... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emkay Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 5 hours ago, zbyti said: This is funny to me. The guy does the game, tells a few times some peoples that he is not interested in their opinions but these people don't care about it. Developer is no longer needed in this project or what? That's what happens regulary in this forums. It would solve this problem, if the topic starter could kick the faulty posts at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bfollowell Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 This thread seems to have died about a month ago. Did the idea of adding moderators die too? I know I haven't heard anything. Anyone else? Maybe it just means I'm not wanted. Still, seems sort of strange to not hear anything though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faicuai Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 11 minutes ago, bfollowell said: Still, seems sort of strange to not hear anything though. That does not mean anything has not happened, though. Just send a PM directly to forum's top-brass, and find out directly (in case this is keeping you awake at night). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tillek Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 On 8/15/2021 at 8:11 PM, Stephen said: The problem with this, is the pack mentality here. In my 20 years of being on this forum, I have banned 3 members, and only 2 are on now. Every single thread, when one posts, the other one follows up sometimes 3 or 4 deep. Every thread. If one posts, they both do. Pretty odd. Also, even though I have the 2 blocked, every time there is an argument in a thread, those 2 are in there. I know because the block feature on this forum sucks vacuum hard. You block everything, but you can see quotes, mentions, replies, etc. Basically, everything you don't want to. Now - let's say those 2 volunteer (because they seem to have nothing but time to post - more in a year than me in 20). If there opinion was the prevailing one, and they got to moderate and push it, the place would be shit and I would leave after 2 decades. Sad that it has to be this way but with manager's and know-it-all mentality, men in their 50s can't stop the bullshit that I experienced back in the early 80s as a kid on the playground. Oh my god - how dare someone have a different opinion, and mention blue when I like red. I see where you're coming from. I cancelled my subscription renewal because of it. I'll be damned if I'm paying money for it if it's going to be like this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tillek Posted September 17, 2021 Share Posted September 17, 2021 15 minutes ago, bfollowell said: This thread seems to have died about a month ago. Did the idea of adding moderators die too? I know I haven't heard anything. Anyone else? Maybe it just means I'm not wanted. Still, seems sort of strange to not hear anything though. I think some of us were hoping it would go away. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted September 17, 2021 Author Share Posted September 17, 2021 4 minutes ago, Faicuai said: That does not mean anything has not happened, though. Just send a PM directly to forum's top-brass, and find out directly (in case this is keeping you awake at night). I'm on vacation right now, and wasn't able to spend the time to answer everyone who sent me PMs beforehand. Once I'm back I will take the time to do that, I just had a ton to do before we left and had to postpone our departure by several days. I haven't forgotten about this, and I will add several moderators to the 8-bit forum once I have time to properly research and respond to those who wrote me. ..Al 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bfollowell Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 12 hours ago, Faicuai said: Just send a PM directly to forum's top-brass, and find out directly (in case this is keeping you awake at night). Not really keeping me up. That's what my grandkids are for. Just curious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marius Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 The best moderation, is the moderation you actually hardly notice. So even a moderator that you don't like in person, could do the job right, without a problem. When the moderation 'rules' are clear, everyone could do the job. People who are seeking for 'power over other people' should not apply for the moderator task. We are all equal here, but it is important that some threads do not derail all the time, and that other users know how to find the moderator. I wouldn't mind if emkay or xxl, or whoever would become moderator. In fact, it could help people also take an active an positive role on the forum. I guess as soon as a moderator goes 'bezerk', there is still Albert around to guide the moderator. I prefer a good moderation over a forum that derails all the time. Atari is fun, and so is writing and reading about Atari. I think AtariAge is a very important forum for us atari enthusiastics. A good moderation is always a pleasure. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashjazzcat Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 45 minutes ago, Marius said: I wouldn't mind if emkay or xxl, or whoever would become moderator. LOL. 'Advocate the use of documented, legal OS entry points one more time and you're kicked out of the thread. You have been warned.' 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faicuai Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 On 8/15/2021 at 10:01 PM, _The Doctor__ said: blue and red make purple... yes... Purple rain, Purple reign... ...That guitar-solo from 6:00... masterful, barely looking at it, and never losing depth and class!... Quite impressive, indeed... ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxl Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 47 minutes ago, flashjazzcat said: LOL. 'Advocate the use of documented, legal OS entry points one more time and you're kicked out of the thread. You have been warned.' the xxl character does not need any level upgrades, it would spoil the balance in the AAge universe, it has such strong statistics - only the mentioned one causes intellectual impotence in some users. 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marius Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 2 hours ago, flashjazzcat said: LOL. 'Advocate the use of documented, legal OS entry points one more time and you're kicked out of the thread. You have been warned.' Well, if any moderator would behave like that, I think AtariAge will lose many subscribers soon. Perhaps a moderatorship is a very effective way of sensitize some of the less easy going members .... if that would actually work, that would open a whole new perspective on who is the best choice for the moderatorship Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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