IntelliMission Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 Donkey Kong, Shenmue... Even obscure games like the first person graphic adventure The Manhole (1988, from the creators of Myst). Sometimes a game comes out several years before a genre is popular. Which game would you say was the most ahead of its time? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikebloke Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 Can't believe I'm saying this, but perhaps super mario bros for the nes. Platformers existed before, but I dont think they were the same level of fun before smb1 and it defined the genre forevermore. We still have people to this day trying to cram out those last few frame skips of what is a technically quite amazing job they did at the time with nes hardware. Now I love to poop on Nintendo hardware (except the financial failure ones I love but nobody else did) but what they did with smb1 was amazing. I think about all the side scrolling games that have come since, even if they aren't strictly Platformers (looking at you gunstar heroes and metal slug) and see where the influence of how to do the game has come from. Ghosts and goblins came out a few months before, and it's a great game, but I don't think it gets the same level of credit which is a super shame, so perhaps that should get the credit over smb1. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Pendleton Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 Herzog Zwei 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+jgkspsx Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 Rogue? Akalabeth? Archon? Battlewheels? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1980gamer Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 Home Consoles only? Space Invaders for the 2600 and how about Pitfall. The first voice games. World Series MLS for the Intellivision Using Camera Angles! Utopia In the Arcade it is hard say. Pong of course. But what amazed me BITD where games like Moon Patrol with the scrolling and Pole Position. The first vector graphic games and though I loath it, Dragon's Lair -first laser disc game. People my age or older remember the real ground breaking games. ( in our opinions ) Younger than me might say MMO's or the photo realistic graphic games etc. This is kind of subjective. We have technical break through and popularity break through. PAC MAN FEVER! etc. But this is a great topic and I look forward to reading what others think about this! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electricmastro Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BydoEmpire Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 Treasure of Tarmin on the Intellivision for sure. Color, animated 3d dungeon crawler on a console in 1983? Treasure of Tarmin blew my mind then, and still fun today. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electricmastro Posted October 31, 2021 Share Posted October 31, 2021 Sprite-scaling game from 1975: 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teh_lurv Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 Alien Resurrection on the PS1. It was the first game to use the twin-stick method of control that is universally standard now in first person games. Gamespot savaged the control scheme in their review: Quote "The game's control setup is its most terrifying element," reads GameSpot's 4.7 out of 10 review. "The left analog stick moves you forward, back, and strafes right and left, while the right analog stick turns you and can be used to look up and down. Too often, you'll turn to face a foe and find that your weapon is aimed at the floor or ceiling while the alien gleefully hacks away at your midsection. Add to the mix a few other head scratchers - such as how the triangle button controls item and health use - and you'll be wondering how Sony let this get by without requesting a few different control configuration options." https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2018-09-09-the-making-of-alien-resurrection-for-psone 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatPix Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 To be fair to the review, they don't seems to mind the whole scheme but how it's implemented. And having played a fair share of PS1 and N64 games, BITD the camera controls were anything but smooth and responsive, so you would indeed struggle to aim at the ennemy. Most of the time it feel like trying to aim a 15 tons cannon stuck in jello. Especially annoying is that there weren't usually any key to "zero" your aim, and when struggling to aim up or down you'd usually overshoot your target. Just because they did it first doesn't meant they did it RIGHT ? And triangle as the use item button? Yep, that a fairly odd choice. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+jgkspsx Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 I mean, it plays like a modern game. You should give it a try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goochman Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 Rescue on Fractulus Alternate Reality the City Doom multi-player Populous - again with Modem play 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanooki Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 I always liked how Turok on N64 faked it, it works nice using the c buttons as a second stick. It was slow, not sure about jello and boomstick bad, but close enough. It just isn't fast like a keyboard and mouse. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roots.genoa Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 23 hours ago, electricmastro said: Sprite-scaling game from 1975: I think we have a "winner" here, since the thread is not just about groundbreaking games but games that were too ahead of their time (at least that's how I understood it). Apparently, this game was made by Space Invaders' creator, and the fact that Space Invaders is a lot more famous (and considered as the game that "created" the Japanese industry of video games) shows that clearly, this one has been made far too soon. Of course it doesn't mean Space Invaders is less fun, it's probably not the case, but it's objectively more "advanced" as a shoot 'em up. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glazball Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 (edited) I second Utopia (Intellivision) and Herzog Zwei (Genesis). Perhaps a case could be made for Vectron (Intellivision). It was so far ahead of it's time that we still don't understand it lol. Edited November 1, 2021 by glazball 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+jgkspsx Posted November 1, 2021 Share Posted November 1, 2021 Hahahah, I think you’re onto something with Vectron. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electricmastro Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 1983 3D polygon game: 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Pendleton Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 I can't believe I forgot Sakura Taisen, but I did, so I'll mention it now. Sakura Taisen. 11 hours ago, teh_lurv said: Alien Resurrection on the PS1. It was the first game to use the twin-stick method of control that is universally standard now in first person games. Gamespot savaged the control scheme in their review: https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2018-09-09-the-making-of-alien-resurrection-for-psone Medal of Honor had that control scheme a year earlier, but it was optional. I think it was controller layout #4 or something, but it's been a while. 2 hours ago, electricmastro said: 1983 3D polygon game: I thought of this game, but I can never remember its name and I was too lazy to research it lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electricmastro Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 6 hours ago, Steven Pendleton said: I thought of this game, but I can never remember its name and I was too lazy to research it lol It was only the most beautiful arcade game the planet had ever seen after all. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electricmastro Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 Speaking of which, here's a 3D flying game from 1985: 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanooki Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 Well if we're going into ahead of the time arcade games, somehow I think holograms deserve the nod too if I Robot gets it for polygons. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electricmastro Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 Sandbox Open World 3D game from 1991: 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roots.genoa Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 5 hours ago, Tanooki said: Well if we're going into ahead of the time arcade games, somehow I think holograms deserve the nod too if I Robot gets it for polygons. This one was so ahead its time has still not come! ? 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IntelliMission Posted November 3, 2021 Author Share Posted November 3, 2021 On 10/31/2021 at 8:10 PM, 1980gamer said: Home Consoles only? Nope! I opened this in Classic Gaming simply because Atari Age doesn't allow multi-forum threads. I would have liked to extend it to Classic Computing too (and, of course, Arcade). Classic Gaming includes handhelds, by the way. I'm seeing some great games being brought up and some of them I didn't know about, keep them coming! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IntelliMission Posted November 3, 2021 Author Share Posted November 3, 2021 (Aaaand this is what happens when you reply to someone before reading the whole message. @1980gamer, please ignore my message above. I now see you were only choosing a game in each category). 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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