ijor Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 Re: Dumping hard sectored disks 5 hours ago, Zarxx said: Same experience as BillC with SC Pro Did you try dumping the disk as it was a flippy? The SCP has two different modes. One that uses the index, the other does not (or at least, it should not). It is known to work fine with flippy disks, so in the worst case, covering the index hole should work. Of course, we loose the track alignment information with this method. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DjayBee Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 @SpicyChronos Here comes my next list of ATX-wishes for early xmas 160B 02/21 MECC Basic Arithmetic is there a 161B? 162B 02/21 MECC Expeditions 539B 02/25 Timber 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpicyChronos Posted March 11, 2022 Author Share Posted March 11, 2022 5 hours ago, DjayBee said: @SpicyChronos Here comes my next list of ATX-wishes for early xmas 160B 02/21 MECC Basic Arithmetic is there a 161B? 162B 02/21 MECC Expeditions 539B 02/25 Timber Early Christmas presents for you.... ATX 03-10-2022.zip 0160B - MECC Basic Arithmetic Version 2.0 (OS-B, BASIC) Sorry, no 0161B. Kryoflux says it's a unformatted disk, I have included the RAW files on my share in the KryoFlux Folder. 0162B - MECC Expeditions Version 1.3 (OS-B, BASIC) 0539B - Timber Enjoy All! 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarxx Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 20 hours ago, ijor said: Re: Dumping hard sectored disks Did you try dumping the disk as it was a flippy? The SCP has two different modes. One that uses the index, the other does not (or at least, it should not). It is known to work fine with flippy disks, so in the worst case, covering the index hole should work. Of course, we loose the track alignment information with this method. Just tried the SCP GUI with the ignore index for reads selected and using a standard disk B side. One of my drives reads only up to 14 sectors (Teac FD-55GFR), the other reads fine and can be written back ok using a8rawconv (Toshiba ND-04DT). With it enabled I do get an index pulse missing error. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mclaneinc Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 (edited) Must say that I'm loving these collections, loads of titles I don't remember and some that I do but were never archived before.. Perfect, huge thanks to the people doing this.. I just love that "oh, I remember this" moment when you see a title that you had totally forgotten about.. It totally cements why we do this hobby... Edited March 11, 2022 by Mclaneinc 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DjayBee Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 @SpicyChronos the next protected disk: 0079 02/21 The Home Accountant Btw.: The ATR already helped me to repair a dump of a diferent release by Kay Savetz. ? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_The Doctor__ Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 6 hours ago, DjayBee said: @SpicyChronos the next protected disk: 0079 02/21 The Home Accountant Btw.: The ATR already helped me to repair a dump of a diferent release by Kay Savetz. ? so the working disks are where now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+DjayBee Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 10 minutes ago, _The Doctor__ said: so the working disks are where now? Home Accountant, The (1983)(Continental Software)(US)(Side A)[a][BASIC][write-protect off][f].atx Home Accountant, The (1983)(Continental Software)(US)(Side B)[a][BASIC][write-protect off][f].atx 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpicyChronos Posted March 18, 2022 Author Share Posted March 18, 2022 Good Morning All, I've added more to my share. It's a little late, but ATR 03-03-2022.zip has been added. Now for some bad news.... My Panasonic JU-475 "flippy" drive bit the dust. The RW head is damaged. The side "One?" head is damaged. I think I might have done it while cleaning the heads. I was able to image about 100+ disks, and I plan on zipping up the raw files and share them on my Google Drive. Maybe there could be some goodies in there, for protected images I am trying to acquire another Panasonic drive, and I find out they are expensive (on eBay, at least). If anyone is feeling generous, and would like to donate / sell a modified, or unmodified Panasonic JU-475 1.2M floppy drive to help me out, I would appreciate it. The RAW images will be added shortly as zip files, to help with downloading. -Marshall 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuxon86 Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 2 minutes ago, SpicyChronos said: Good Morning All, I've added more to my share. It's a little late, but ATR 03-03-2022.zip has been added. Now for some bad news.... My Panasonic JU-475 "flippy" drive bit the dust. The RW head is damaged. The side "One?" head is damaged. I think I might have done it while cleaning the heads. I was able to image about 100+ disks, and I plan on zipping up the raw files and share them on my Google Drive. Maybe there could be some goodies in there, for protected images I am trying to acquire another Panasonic drive, and I find out they are expensive (on eBay, at least). If anyone is feeling generous, and would like to donate / sell a modified, or unmodified Panasonic JU-475 1.2M floppy drive to help me out, I would appreciate it. The RAW images will be added shortly as zip files, to help with downloading. -Marshall I've got an extra one (JU-475) but shipping it could be costly... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invisible kid Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 Maybe start one of those gofundme pages. I can chip in some scratch. For either shipping or a new drive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpicyChronos Posted March 18, 2022 Author Share Posted March 18, 2022 2 hours ago, invisible kid said: Maybe start one of those gofundme pages. I can chip in some scratch. For either shipping or a new drive. Thanks for the suggestion. I've never done a GoFundMe before. I'm not sure how well it would work out. But, I'm waiting on hearing back on some inquiries I've made. In the meantime, I am able to image with other drives, however I wouldn't be able to do "flippy" disks. I have a decent size collection of "unknown" floppies, from various systems, that I am imaging with KryoFlux preservation mode. I've figured out how to use KryoFlux to create image files using different switches for these unknown disks: .\DTC.exe -p -fd:\kryo\unk-0004\track00.0.raw -i0 -fd:\kryo\unk-img\0004.i3 -i3 -fd:\kryo\unk-img\0004.i4 -i4 -fd:\kryo\unk-img\0004.i34 -k2 -i3 -fd:\kryo\unk-img\0004.i44 -k2 -i4 -fd:\kryo\unk-img\0004.i6 -i6 -fd:\kryo\unk-img\0004.i7 -i7 -fd:\kryo\unk-img\0004.i8 -i8 -fd:\kryo\unk-img\0004.i8a -i8a -fd:\kryo\unk-img\0004.i9 -i9 -m1 There is probably a better or easier way to do this. -Marshall 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpicyChronos Posted March 19, 2022 Author Share Posted March 19, 2022 https://gofund.me/29e79e7a Hi, all. I'm trying to aquire a Panasonic floppy drive to finish working on preservation activities of vintage computer floppy disks. I need to replace or repair my current drive. So I have setup a gofundme account to see if I can get some help in purchasing one. Thank you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invisible kid Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 Thanks for spending the time doing this, this is priceless stuff! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
venom4728a Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 (edited) Thank you for doing this! Best Regards venom4728a Edited March 19, 2022 by venom4728a Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Allan Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 Sent you $20. Thanks for all the work. Hopefully this will inspire others to do this with their disks. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpicyChronos Posted March 20, 2022 Author Share Posted March 20, 2022 I just wanted to say.....THANK YOU to all the people who have donated to the gofundme. I am almost at my goal! I look forward to finishing up my current archiving, and to provide help with others if they would like to have their collections preserved. I have the capability to do 5.25" and 3.5" disks. I'd also like to look into preserving 3" (Amdek?) 8" disks too. -Marshall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpicyChronos Posted March 21, 2022 Author Share Posted March 21, 2022 On 3/19/2022 at 10:51 PM, SpicyChronos said: I just wanted to say.....THANK YOU to all the people who have donated to the gofundme. I am almost at my goal! I look forward to finishing up my current archiving, and to provide help with others if they would like to have their collections preserved. I have the capability to do 5.25" and 3.5" disks. I'd also like to look into preserving 3" (Amdek?) 8" disks too. -Marshall Wow!!!!! The goal was met and I am now working on purchasing a replacement drive. In the meantime, here is another addition to my Google Drive. (ATR 03-17-2022.zip) -Marshall 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invisible kid Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 (edited) Awesome! I am having a blast trying these disks out. Thanks to all the preservers! Edited March 21, 2022 by invisible kid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwilbar Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 On 3/8/2022 at 8:27 PM, SpicyChronos said: Question about imaging hard sectored disks... Since the 1050 (with Happy) and Indus GT drives don't use the index hole... and I had both back in the day, I got a bunch of hard sectored disks cheap, and now I'm using KryoFlux and my Panasonic "Flippy" drive to image them. If it is a standard non-protected disk, will I be able to create a ATR image? I can always use my APE interface to make ATRs, if it fails. I have dumped a few disks so far, but I haven't attempted to make ATRs yet. If I have a copied protected disk on a hard sectored disk, will I run into any troubles? I would think it would have a problem. I'm sure it can be done with the Supercard Pro, as I can image the back sides of flippies. But it doesn't work with all 5.25" drives. So, if I had that situation, I'd put something to block the index hole, and image w/o requiring the index pulses using a mechanism that will do it. I know that is a lot of variables and it may not apply to the Kryoflux or the Greaseweasel. If they are not protected, then you could duplicate them on the Atari and image them with any flux dumper/etc. If you get them imaged and can write them back out, I could use some hard sector disks for a Northstar Advantage I have. Could trade you some NOS soft sectors for em. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpicyChronos Posted March 23, 2022 Author Share Posted March 23, 2022 12 hours ago, cwilbar said: I would think it would have a problem. I'm sure it can be done with the Supercard Pro, as I can image the back sides of flippies. But it doesn't work with all 5.25" drives. So, if I had that situation, I'd put something to block the index hole, and image w/o requiring the index pulses using a mechanism that will do it. I know that is a lot of variables and it may not apply to the Kryoflux or the Greaseweasel. If they are not protected, then you could duplicate them on the Atari and image them with any flux dumper/etc. If you get them imaged and can write them back out, I could use some hard sector disks for a Northstar Advantage I have. Could trade you some NOS soft sectors for em. For the hard sectored disks, I'll copy them to a soft sectored disks, and if they are copy protected, I have a super-archiver drive with bit-writer. Question for archiving difficult disks... I know the disk is not copy protected, but I keep getting CRC errors when trying to image just to an ATR with the ProSystem. I've tried turning off all the speed-up mods, and re-tries to 99. I've even tried different drives. Would I have a better chance of recovery with KryoFlux or Greaseweazle (On order, should get it soon)? With the GoFundMe funds, I was able to buy two Panasonic drives, so I'll be able to get back to work with preservation. Thanks All! -Marshall 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpicyChronos Posted March 23, 2022 Author Share Posted March 23, 2022 (edited) Added some more goodies to my Drive. Look for ATR 03-21-2022.zip and the same name in the ATR Folder. I've also added a CSV file with hopefully all the filenames in the images. I used ATRTools 030a to create it. CSV can be imported into Excel, OpenOffice, etc.. or just a plain text editor. -Marshall Edited March 23, 2022 by SpicyChronos Additional Info 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpicyChronos Posted March 24, 2022 Author Share Posted March 24, 2022 Hey all, Fresh upload to my Google Drive. Look for "ATR 03-22-2022" folder and zip file. Enjoy! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpicyChronos Posted March 24, 2022 Author Share Posted March 24, 2022 Hey all, I have received one of the two drives I ordered, thanks to all your donations. Preservation activities will be up and running shortly. Once again, thank you, everyone who donated. -Marshall 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpicyChronos Posted March 31, 2022 Author Share Posted March 31, 2022 Hey all, Preservation has been started again with a new Flippy drive. Got it modified and tested, and working on preserving these disks. Again, thank you to all that donated. If you would like to have your collection of disks preserved, I should be done with my set soon. PM me if you'd be interested. I'm in the US, South Carolina. Thank you, Marshall 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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