Starcat Posted May 16, 2004 Share Posted May 16, 2004 Hi folks ! I feel the need to warn you about a certain game retailer. A certain game dealer called "gameland" which is in hollywood, USA is not trustworthy at all. After I shipped him 51 copies of Ocean Depths, and after he mailed me that the items had arrived, after a disagreement he claimed nothing had arrived and now wants a full refund with paypal. I also have a few photos of him showing the game on E3. (Nothing special, though. He was just a regular visitor who took the game out of his pocket and took a few pictures with an incredible bad digital camera. Only one picture is of adequate quality to actually see what it is about and only if you know what it's about.) However now he is bad mouthing ocean depths and me and putting those copys that he claims had never arrived on ebay. Which means, I will never even get my items back if I do the refund. Even though his auction texts are highly ridiculous, they are potentially harming sales. Not only mine, but the sales of everybody who offers the game. Including songbird, atari age and other great Jaguar supporters. In his e-mails he is talking about how professional and big he is (even though I have never ever heard of him, before. I would consider "big" something like EB Games, with stores all other europe and US. Not somebody with one store, in one city.), but still he found it funny to insult me, carl forhan and the Jag scene in general in over ten e-mails. He already has 54 complaints on ebay, most of them because he didn't ship his items or, because he got stuff, then asked for refund as he claimed nothing had arrived. So this is no new thing to him. He defiantely did this before. Ebay ID: lizcamp2 Zane Coopersmith goodgoodhailey@hotmail.com 323-369-9207 Los Angeles Store Location- GAMELAND 7071 SANTA MONICA BLVD W.HOLLYWOOD,CA 90038 USA So all I can do is warn everybody, either not to deal with him at all, or to be VERY careful. Regards, Lars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+davidcalgary29 Posted May 16, 2004 Share Posted May 16, 2004 I am very sorry to hear that. My own copy of Ocean Depths arrived within 10 days of my order, and without incident. [/u] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadLynxer Posted May 16, 2004 Share Posted May 16, 2004 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...item=8105841391 What an asshole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sack-c0s Posted May 16, 2004 Share Posted May 16, 2004 '[giving away] ONE OCEAN A DEPTHS AWAY A WEEK FOR ONE FULL YEAR.' so... that would be 51 copies then? the 51 he didn't get I presume... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nukey Shay Posted May 16, 2004 Share Posted May 16, 2004 Calling others things like "another Canadian thief" and followups constantly complaining about how low member feedback is when he's ripping off newbies. It's a wonder that he hasn't been booted already. I think a little "mass hysteria" might be in order for this bad monkey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albert Posted May 16, 2004 Share Posted May 16, 2004 I've seen some pretty amazing things, but this may take the cake. I don't know the details of the disagreement you had with this individual, but that he would resort to outright lying in order to try and get a refund from you, and then dump the 51 copies he "never received" on eBay is astounding. What is it with people? Fortunately it should be fairly easy to prove to PayPal that this person DID in fact receive your package and that he is trying to now rip you off. Make sure you send them the email where he acknowledged receipt of the package, send them the photos of the game being demonstrated by this person at E3, and certainly show how he is selling (well, giving away) the game on eBay, as PayPal can easily verify it is the same person (given eBay and PayPal are the same organization now). I recently purchased several copies of Ocean Depths for the AtariAge store, and I received them quickly and well-packaged. They haven't hit the AA Store yet as I've been busy making preparations for the Midwest Gaming Classic next weekend, but they will soon. ..Al Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punisher5.0 Posted May 16, 2004 Share Posted May 16, 2004 Well judging by his horrible grammar, spelling, capitalization, and piss poor attitude I don't see why anyone would want to make a bid on his auctions. Any one in the Jaguar community who puts a bid on this guys Ocean Depths auctions should be ashamed of themselves. We are very fortunate to have a programmer like Lars making games for the Jaguar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justclaws Posted May 16, 2004 Share Posted May 16, 2004 Well judging by his horrible grammar, spelling, capitalization, and piss poor attitude I don't see why anyone would want to make a bid on his auctions. You really should read his amusing Rolex watch advert! Any one in the Jaguar community who puts a bid on this guys Ocean Depths auctions should be ashamed of themselves. We are very fortunate to have a programmer like Lars making games for the Jaguar. I have bid on one with StarCat's approval, we will see if he delivers... I may also find out what he's saying to other purchases, very useful. Regards, JustClaws. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Creekree Posted May 17, 2004 Share Posted May 17, 2004 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...item=8105841391 What an asshole. i agree! creekree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_King Posted May 17, 2004 Share Posted May 17, 2004 He seems of very low intelligence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted May 17, 2004 Share Posted May 17, 2004 I like this quote HIGH SCHOOL KIDS WHO STAY UP LATE TO CHEAT OF EXAMS MUST BE EXPOSED. Huh? Tempest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyper_Eye Posted May 17, 2004 Share Posted May 17, 2004 HIGH SCHOOL KIDS WHO STAY UP LATE TO CHEAT OF EXAMS MUST BE EXPOSED. Hahaha! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starcat Posted May 17, 2004 Author Share Posted May 17, 2004 Hi ! If you think that the stuff he wrote in his auctions is ridiculous, then you would fall off your chair laughing after reading the over ten insult e-mails that this person sent me. Telling me how great he was, because he has a game store and telling me being nothing because I do not But at least I'm happy that I'm not the only one who realizes how ridiculous and childish his behavior is. Regards, Lars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thund3r Posted May 17, 2004 Share Posted May 17, 2004 51 copys u say? thats more then enough to beat him with! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JagMX Posted May 18, 2004 Share Posted May 18, 2004 Do not refund him any money - end of story Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannon3731 Posted May 18, 2004 Share Posted May 18, 2004 I would not give him a dime back. We are with you Starcat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nukey Shay Posted May 18, 2004 Share Posted May 18, 2004 What money I thought no money at all had been recieved for the copies this dillweed is now giving away (meaning he's ebaying stolen games). Did you forward those emails to Evilbay? I guess that would be the best way to provide proof that you had not gotten paid for what he's now auctioning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JagMX Posted May 18, 2004 Share Posted May 18, 2004 What money "After I shipped him 51 copies of Ocean Depths, and after he mailed me that the items had arrived, after a disagreement he claimed nothing had arrived and now wants a full refund with paypal" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyper_Eye Posted May 18, 2004 Share Posted May 18, 2004 I agree... no refunds for: HIGH SCHOOL KIDS WHO STAY UP LATE TO CHEAT OF EXAMS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DracIsBack Posted May 18, 2004 Share Posted May 18, 2004 How - sorry you had to put up with this guy, Lars. I question his "business skills" myself, if he's insulting customers, can't design a website and can't write a coherent sentence in noncaps. But alas, I must be another one of those "Canadian Thiefs". LOL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starcat Posted May 19, 2004 Author Share Posted May 19, 2004 Hi ! Thanks for the great support, everybody I'm glad you all realize the nothing he talks about in the auction is true and that he is not to be taken serious at all. Meanwhile I feel bad enough for ever doing business with somebody like that. When I look back now, I see tons of warning signs, that I must have overlooked before. Like always trying to persuade me to do things like price raises, like not even telling me his name (I had to ask for it, to get this info), like always telling me how "big" he was (big companys don't talk all the time about how great, professional (ha ha, yes sure ) or big they are, only small, unimportant ones do that). Anyway, I'm glad that a lot of Jag fans are warned now and won't be ripped off by this guy. The current status on the situation is, that I sent the tracking information for the package to paypal and that I'm waiting for them to deny this ridiculous refund request of that guy. Regards, Lars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaxxon Posted May 19, 2004 Share Posted May 19, 2004 Someone who is naughty might use the BIN button on all his auctions and forget to pay him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atari_wizard Posted May 19, 2004 Share Posted May 19, 2004 he'll get whats coming to him. bad apples always do! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justclaws Posted May 21, 2004 Share Posted May 21, 2004 Any one in the Jaguar community who puts a bid on this guys Ocean Depths auctions should be ashamed of themselves. While I remember - I should tell everybody. The dealer cancelled all auction bids close to the first closing auction, saying as an excuse "error on auction listing" but it's relisted the same. Make of that what you will. Cheers! JustClaws. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justclaws Posted May 21, 2004 Share Posted May 21, 2004 Any one in the Jaguar community who puts a bid on this guys Ocean Depths auctions should be ashamed of themselves. Hey! Doug / Thunderbird (Captain Awesome) is high bidder on the 3rd give-away-abuse-auction for Ocean Depths, and 6 days to go! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...item=8106274645 No comment, it's a surprising turn of events to me. JustClaws. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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