Rom Hunter Posted December 22, 2005 Author Share Posted December 22, 2005 Ski Hunt and Ski Run share a lot of the same code. They were both by the same author because they are dissimilar enough that it isn't just a hack. Ski Hunt looks like the earlier game since it has no music. These are all speculations, R. Cade. The only thing that's certain is that: Ski Hunt and Ski Run are two different ski games. Ski Hunt is a Home Vision title. Ski Run is a Taiwan R.O.C. title. It's not even certain that Ski Run from Suntek is the same game as Ski Run from Taiwan R.O.C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.Cade Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 Granted, it is speculation, but they do share code. Someone said there is an NTSC Ski Run rom somewhere? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxsolo2000 Posted December 22, 2005 Share Posted December 22, 2005 Rom I have to agree with Cade on this one for both Ski games are far too similiar in looks and play to be coincidental. Both look as if more care was taken in their development than any other Rainbow/Home Vision game and I have never come across a Taiwan ROC releaset that looks as good as these two. I dont think that any Taiwan group released these. i think another company entirely developed them but the question remains as to who? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom Hunter Posted December 23, 2005 Author Share Posted December 23, 2005 (edited) Although they do look very similar, according to CloneSpy, Ski Run and Ski Hunt don't share any code. I didn't say that Taiwan R.O.C. released Ski Run. I said that it's a Taiwan R.O.C. title, just as Catch Time (AKA Plaque Attack) is a Taiwan R.O.C. title. I really hope that someone will come up with the true identity of Ski Run from Suntek (SS-024) someday. Talking about Suntek, I discovered something else a long time ago: After examining both the Suntek and the Rainbow Vision boxes of the same game, I discovered that the Rainbow Vision logo on the boxes misses a rainbow colour (dark green) that the fronts of Suntek (and Rainbow Vision) boxes do have. Therefore I think that Suntek came before Rainbow Vision. Rainbow Vision inspired it's name and logo from the original rainbow colours on the Suntek boxes. BTW: here's the NTSC Ski Run ROM. Ski_Run__2600_Screen_Search_Console___Jone_Yuan_Telephonic_Enterprise_Co_.bin Edited December 23, 2005 by Rom Hunter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom Hunter Posted December 23, 2005 Author Share Posted December 23, 2005 (edited) Note: the original Goliath boxes also look very similar to Suntek boxes! Edited December 23, 2005 by Rom Hunter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxsolo2000 Posted December 23, 2005 Share Posted December 23, 2005 Now that makes for very interesting reading. So we have been looking at this backwards. What about Home Vision. Were they after Sun Tek too? There is a definite link between all these companies. I wouldn't be surprised to learn that they all have one parent company much like the washing powder companies where there are 5 companies producing all the different washing products between them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom Hunter Posted December 23, 2005 Author Share Posted December 23, 2005 Now that makes for very interesting reading. So we have been looking at this backwards. What about Home Vision. Were they after Sun Tek too? I'm not sure. I think that Bit Corporation, Funvision and Suntek are the "Taiwanese Mothers", with Bit Corporation on top. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxsolo2000 Posted December 23, 2005 Share Posted December 23, 2005 I still think, no I am certain that they are all interlinked with Home Vision being the European division. I wish there was someone we could talk to to confirm this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco Posted December 23, 2005 Share Posted December 23, 2005 Homevision is not a European company, their games were produced in Taiwan by GEM Int’l Corp. and distributed by GEM Intl in Belgium. Cheers, Marco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.Cade Posted December 23, 2005 Share Posted December 23, 2005 Although they do look very similar, according to CloneSpy, Ski Run and Ski Hunt don't share any code. I didn't say that Taiwan R.O.C. released Ski Run. I said that it's a Taiwan R.O.C. title, just as Catch Time (AKA Plaque Attack) is a Taiwan R.O.C. title. I really hope that someone will come up with the true identity of Ski Run from Suntek (SS-024) someday. Talking about Suntek, I discovered something else a long time ago: After examining both the Suntek and the Rainbow Vision boxes of the same game, I discovered that the Rainbow Vision logo on the boxes misses a rainbow colour (dark green) that the fronts of Suntek (and Rainbow Vision) boxes do have. Therefore I think that Suntek came before Rainbow Vision. Rainbow Vision inspired it's name and logo from the original rainbow colours on the Suntek boxes. BTW: here's the NTSC Ski Run ROM. I did a quickie NTSC fix on that and they did the same thing I did (reduce overscan), which doesn't fix the skier colors. I did "fix" the sky colors though as it looks very strange for the sky to be orange, unless your skiing at sunset. The games share the same graphic elements, but the code is quite different, especially in the way it derives colors, as Ski Run doesn't use lookup tables. Ski Run's colors are just awful- look at the trees and other stuff. This can be fixed easily, but then it's a "hack" and not something that was released on cart and I'm not sure I want to get into that. skigames.zip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxsolo2000 Posted December 23, 2005 Share Posted December 23, 2005 So what you are saying Marco is what I already suspected that all the companies are intelinked in some way which explains why they all share the same games Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco Posted December 23, 2005 Share Posted December 23, 2005 It's all Bit baby! Cheers, Marco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxsolo2000 Posted December 23, 2005 Share Posted December 23, 2005 Bit Corp is the mother company yes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom Hunter Posted February 18, 2006 Author Share Posted February 18, 2006 (edited) Ok, Who owns Ski Run (SS-024) from Suntek? Who owns Spectracube Invasion (SS-025) from Suntek? Who owns Asteroid Belt (SS-029) from Suntek? And who owns a Suntek cartridge with one of the following model numbers: SS-018 SS-026 SS-027 SS-028 There must be somebody who owns one of these Suntek carts. Edited February 18, 2006 by Rom Hunter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omegamatrix Posted February 18, 2006 Share Posted February 18, 2006 Forgive my ignorance, but who originally did Ski Run? Was it Suntek? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom Hunter Posted February 18, 2006 Author Share Posted February 18, 2006 Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 Some pictures from the German owner of the Spectracube Invasion cart: So, finally the S.S. mystery has been solved, it stands for SunScience! Cheers, Marco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom Hunter Posted February 28, 2006 Author Share Posted February 28, 2006 (edited) Holy shit. Thanks a lot, Marco. You solved two riddles at once: S.S. means Sun Science. Spectracube Invasion is Immies & Aggies. This makes sense. Finally then.... I'm going to update the Suntek list immediately. Thanks again, Marco! Edited February 28, 2006 by Rom Hunter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tempest Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 Another mystery solved. And now there's some explaination of the game too. Thanks Marco! Tempest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxsolo2000 Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 Yes thank you Marco. Keep up the good work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom Hunter Posted March 1, 2006 Author Share Posted March 1, 2006 (edited) Here's another rare Suntek title from Tom: Edited March 3, 2006 by Rom Hunter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxsolo2000 Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 Nice find Rom. Indeed a truly rare piece Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spirantho Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 Nice find Rom. Indeed a truly rare piece Very much so... Any chance of a pic without the watermark on it for the PAL database? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Blair Posted March 2, 2006 Share Posted March 2, 2006 Hello! I´m the German owner of the two Suntek games. Am I the only collector who has this games? Sorry Marco, but I don´t sell the game. It makes my little collection more worth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxsolo2000 Posted March 2, 2006 Share Posted March 2, 2006 Tom you dont by chance have a copy of Go Go Home Monster and Magic Carpet by Home Vision do you? BTW welcome to Atariage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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