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#1 shining slade OFFLINE  

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Posted Mon Jul 11, 2005 11:53 AM

http://cgi.ebay.com/.....AMEDW:IT&rd=1 Does anyone know anything about this cart since it is not in the rarity guide?? :ponder: I was not home when it ended to re-bid, so I lost out on it by $1 :x

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Posted Mon Jul 11, 2005 12:19 PM

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Dear God!! That actually exists???

I've always thought it was an advertising prop, as it has only ever been seen (to my knowledge) in a 1977 Popular Mechanics ad.

Makes me wonder now about that black label Crazy Cliumber in Atari Age v1#5 that was also thought to be just an advertising prop.

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Posted Mon Jul 11, 2005 12:20 PM

I vaguely remember this from somewhere, but I did a google search just now. That turned up a couple references. One is the old VGR list of games which shows this as an unreleased title for CX2603, Star Ship. You can kind of make out the text on the label as:

space mission

1.9 space mission
10.11 warp drive
12.17 lunar lander

Overall, for those into label variations, an incredible find! It could be pre-release label. I wonder if a box was made for this also. Congrats to ssk!

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Posted Mon Jul 11, 2005 12:21 PM

It's actually the original name for Star Ship.

Here's that ad:

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Edited by crunchysuperman, Mon Jul 11, 2005 12:24 PM.


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Posted Mon Jul 11, 2005 12:43 PM

That's rather interesting. It's definitely a text # cart, and it definitely says "space mission." Odd that no one has ever come across one of these before if they actually did exist. Maybe some of the first batch got printed with the original name?

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Posted Mon Jul 11, 2005 1:09 PM

:-o :-o

How did I miss THAT?!? What an amazing find, assuming it's real (and in an auction like that, I'd assume it is.)

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Posted Mon Jul 11, 2005 1:12 PM

Here's a better one I just found. Notice there's no number on this one.

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Posted Mon Jul 11, 2005 1:16 PM

What's that ad from? I like the funky sticks... the red and white ring looks nice.

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Posted Mon Jul 11, 2005 2:04 PM

Not sure. I got that pic from this interview with Bob Whitehead, but it doesn't specify where it came from. I know the b&w one is from Popular Mechanics though (this one might be as well for all I know)

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Posted Mon Jul 11, 2005 2:50 PM

Were those joysticks in the ad ever released for I don't recall ever seeing them before? Has anyone asked Tempest for his opinion on the game?

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Posted Mon Jul 11, 2005 3:26 PM

It's hard to tell from that picture. It could be real, but I would have serious doubts. I know people who got the 2600 when it was first available and they got a Star Ship cart not Space Mission. But stranger things have happened.

That Super Challenge Baseball label looks odd too. I'd like to see that up close. Anyone know the person who won this?

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Posted Mon Jul 11, 2005 3:47 PM

:love:

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Posted Mon Jul 11, 2005 3:49 PM

That Super Challenge Baseball label looks odd too.  I'd like to see that up close.

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Looks like a hand-written label to me, possibly because the old one came off.

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Posted Mon Jul 11, 2005 5:26 PM

Whoa! I thought this cart was just a promo mock-up. I can't believe I missed out on this. :sad: I would have never thought to search for that title. If the cart is legit, it's one of the greatest finds ever!

Who is sskatari2600? Is he on AA? Because we need a nice scan of this cart. Please. :)

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Posted Tue Jul 12, 2005 3:30 AM

I sent him an email asking him about it. Here is what he told me :-

hello friend
in response to both your questions, I will have to say
I dont know, these carts were given to me for the kids
to play with some years ago, Im not an up to date know
it all collecter about these things, I did test the
carts but as to there games, Im unsure, there are
sites I found check here

http://my.execpc.com...eg/VidGames.htm

but you probably know about them already.

thanks
Dean

That's all he told me.

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Posted Tue Jul 12, 2005 8:57 AM

Wow, very cool. It certainly seems legit -- I mean, it's not like the seller was trying to hype it as a "very rare prototype" or anything. The auction just seems like it was the average Joe selling off some Atari carts....

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Posted Tue Jul 12, 2005 4:10 PM

Tempest what would have happened to the Space Missions used in the adverts? Were they real games or just empty cases. If they were real then what happened to them?

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Posted Tue Jul 12, 2005 5:39 PM

Tempest what would have happened to the Space Missions used in the adverts?  Were they real games or just empty cases.  If they were real then what happened to them?

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I always assumed it was a mock up. I could be a real cart I guess. Who knows?

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Posted Tue Jul 12, 2005 8:42 PM

If I had to guess, I'd say any mock-up carts made for ads were probably either trashed, destroyed, or saved to re-use (as other mock-ups). It's possible but IMO unlikely that a few of them might have been kept by the photo crew or marketing department members who worked with the photo crew.

BTW, my guess would be that the Space Mission (and the Air-Sea Battle) in the ad posted above by crunchysuperman are probably mockups, since they lack the # on the end label, while there's a fair chance that the one used in the Popular Mechanics ad may have been a production cart. It's fairly obvious that the famous Crazy Climber cart from the AA V1 #5 ad is a mockup since it lacks much text - CX number, "Fuji" logo, copyright info, etc.

Edited by A.J. Franzman, Tue Jul 12, 2005 9:02 PM.


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Posted Sat Jul 16, 2005 2:18 PM

I attempted to contact the guy who originally sold the game lot as well as the guy who won them. I am beginning to think that the game was a fake as firstly the seller could offer me no information on the game in question other than he had purchased them for his kids some years ago and secondly I have contacted the purchaser some three times and he has failed to answer the question. All he did was read the top label of the game and when pressed if the game actually worked and if it was in reality Starship he never got back to me so I guess that the experts were right and it was too good to be true.

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Posted Sun Jul 17, 2005 4:28 PM

I attempted to contact the guy who originally sold the game lot as well as the guy who won them.  I am beginning to think that the game was a fake as firstly the seller could offer me no information on the game in question other than he had purchased them for his kids some years ago and secondly I have contacted the purchaser some three times and he has failed to answer the question.  All he did was read the top label of the game and when pressed if the game actually worked and if it was in reality Starship he never got back to me so I guess that the experts were right and it was too good to be true.

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Some people are just sensitive. It still may be real.......

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Posted Sat Nov 12, 2005 10:04 AM

Any update on this? Did we ever determine if that was the real thing or not?

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Posted Sat Nov 12, 2005 12:18 PM

Not as yet. The subject went strangely quiet and now we have an Atari Space Combat surface. Seems a little strange to me ;)

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Posted Wed Jul 18, 2007 12:00 AM

I know it's an old topic, but did anyone save the image(s) from the eBay listing, and if so would you please post them here?

BTW, the Bob Whitehead interwiew at DP (w/ 2 ads showing "Space Mission") is at a new address: DP Interviews ... Bob Whitehead.

Edited by A.J. Franzman, Wed Jul 18, 2007 12:05 AM.


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Posted Wed Jun 25, 2008 4:48 AM

I know it's an old topic, but did anyone save the image(s) from the eBay listing, and if so would you please post them here?

Here you go, Franzman:
http://atarimania.co...ERSION_ID=20709

Better late than never, eh?

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