+Random Terrain Posted March 19, 2006 Share Posted March 19, 2006 (edited) 1. The paths can be considered a maze, right? When I look up the word maze, it seems to qualify. 2. Is Amidar the only Zone Capture game on the Atari 2600? Thanks. Edited March 19, 2006 by Random Terrain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NovaXpress Posted March 19, 2006 Share Posted March 19, 2006 I totally consider games like Amidar and Make Trax to be maze games. Whether you eat dots or claim territory, it's the same play mechanic (Pepper II took this to a different level by giving you the ability to unzip). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Random Terrain Posted March 19, 2006 Author Share Posted March 19, 2006 (edited) Thanks. Now all I need to do is find out if this in the only game on the Atari 2600 where you capture areas of the screen. Edited March 19, 2006 by Random Terrain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwh Posted March 19, 2006 Share Posted March 19, 2006 Demolition Herby is the other game that you 'capture' areas of the playfield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandmountainslim Posted March 19, 2006 Share Posted March 19, 2006 Do you not capture areas of the field in Othello? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Random Terrain Posted March 19, 2006 Author Share Posted March 19, 2006 Demolition Herby is the other game that you 'capture' areas of the playfield. Thanks. Never played that one, so I just tried it. The controls are way better on that game. Not as 'sticky'. The playfield also looks a little more like arcade Amidar than 2600 Amidar does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Random Terrain Posted March 19, 2006 Author Share Posted March 19, 2006 Do you not capture areas of the field in Othello? Yeah, thanks. I'm going to leave Othello in the board game category though. I'm putting Amidar and Demolition Herby in a subcategory called Zone Capture under Maze-Chase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supercat Posted March 19, 2006 Share Posted March 19, 2006 Spiderdroid by Froggo appears to be a published hack of Amidar, and should probably be mentioned for completeness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Random Terrain Posted March 20, 2006 Author Share Posted March 20, 2006 Spiderdroid by Froggo appears to be a published hack of Amidar, and should probably be mentioned for completeness. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxsolo2000 Posted March 20, 2006 Share Posted March 20, 2006 There was also Netmaker by Quelle which was an Amidar pirate with the gorilla being turned into a spider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YOK-dfa Posted March 20, 2006 Share Posted March 20, 2006 What about miner 2049'er volume I+II ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NovaXpress Posted March 20, 2006 Share Posted March 20, 2006 What about miner 2049'er volume I+II ? No way. Running and jumping is a world apart from running around in a restricted path. Amidar is a maze game and a direct descendent of Pac-Man. The play mechinc is identical: claim territory in a maze. Whether this is signified by the removal or dots or a change of color in the maze itself is irrelevant. Amidar uses a clever visual twist to give the genre a new spin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YOK-dfa Posted March 20, 2006 Share Posted March 20, 2006 What about miner 2049'er volume I+II ? No way. Running and jumping is a world apart from running around in a restricted path. Amidar is a maze game and a direct descendent of Pac-Man. The play mechinc is identical: claim territory in a maze. Whether this is signified by the removal or dots or a change of color in the maze itself is irrelevant. Amidar uses a clever visual twist to give the genre a new spin. In Miner 2049'er you also claim territory by running over it. Moving around in that game is just as restricted as in Pacman (you still have to stay in the pre-programmed paths). Wether or not you could call it a maze is debatable though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NovaXpress Posted March 20, 2006 Share Posted March 20, 2006 It's not debatable. Miner 2049er is a platform game. If that's a maze game then so is Donkey Kong and Pitfall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom Hunter Posted March 20, 2006 Share Posted March 20, 2006 http://www.atarimania.com/lst_soft-MENU-2-...ILLE_ID-33.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanJr Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 It's not debatable. Miner 2049er is a platform game. If that's a maze game then so is Donkey Kong and Pitfall. Wrong. In neither of those games do you claim territory. Miner 2049er is debatable because you do claim territory to complete the level, however you do it via platforming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NovaXpress Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 RT and I have been hashing out the definitions: We have two different play mechanics to consider. One is platform vs maze. The other is "territory-acquistition" vs "finish-line" games. So Miner 2049er would be a territory-acquisition platformer. Amidar would be a territory-acquisition maze game. Donkey Kong would be a finish-line platformer. Maze Craze would be a finish-line maze game. How do those categorizations strike you all? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanJr Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 I like 'em. Crispy on the outside, but chewy on the inside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Random Terrain Posted March 21, 2006 Author Share Posted March 21, 2006 RT and I have been hashing out the definitions: We have two different play mechanics to consider. One is platform vs maze. The other is "territory-acquistition" vs "finish-line" games. So Miner 2049er would be a territory-acquisition platformer. Amidar would be a territory-acquisition maze game. Donkey Kong would be a finish-line platformer. Maze Craze would be a finish-line maze game. How do those categorizations strike you all? Thanks. Territory Acquisition sounds better than Zone Capture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gack Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 Woah. I was playing this when I clicked on this topic. very odd I consider it a maze game...Maybe even just a primtive Qix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Random Terrain Posted March 21, 2006 Author Share Posted March 21, 2006 There are more games that fit under Territory Acquisition, so I'll just make that a real category instead of repeating it as a subcategory. That will make things easier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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