Cybernoid Posted June 22, 2006 Share Posted June 22, 2006 Here is a simple charpad map with some tiles created (albeit badly...I know some of the tiles are not correct). level1.zip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heaven/TQA Posted June 22, 2006 Author Share Posted June 22, 2006 thanks guys... emkay.. yeah, now i see... it's like the 2600 game haunted house... why dont you use an older g2f version? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pseudografx Posted June 22, 2006 Share Posted June 22, 2006 I fixed some pixels in the picture so now it should use up even less chars. Moreover, I tried how would it look if some front walls were "cut" so that they won't overlap areas where the player can move. Do you think such approach would look good enough? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heaven/TQA Posted June 22, 2006 Author Share Posted June 22, 2006 this looks really great... imagine lava animation which can be done like in Boinxx... the only thing is that from my point of view the corner of the wall cut looks not correct... imho. the angle does not fit. what about sacrifice some more chars to fix that?` otherwise i guess this could work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heaven/TQA Posted June 22, 2006 Author Share Posted June 22, 2006 btw. think of the following... the player sprite will consists of 2x3 chars f.e. and all aditional armor/shield etc will be visible. but we do not want to waste chars for that... we can simply replace the chars so we can have the additional armor chars (f.e. 4 types normal, enhanced, epic,...) somewhere else and just copy them over when player puts on the new stuff? of course...if working 5200 in mind we would have to spend 1k ram more of his 16k... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pseudografx Posted June 22, 2006 Share Posted June 22, 2006 this looks really great... imagine lava animation which can be done like in Boinxx... the only thing is that from my point of view the corner of the wall cut looks not correct... imho. the angle does not fit. what about sacrifice some more chars to fix that?` otherwise i guess this could work. what angle do you think would be the best? to fill the whole black gap? btw. the lava animation could be also improved with simple colour register changes, so that it would look like it glows - in case that only the lava pools/streams use this colour, which is the case for the screenshot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heaven/TQA Posted June 22, 2006 Author Share Posted June 22, 2006 i dont know i am not a gfx man... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heaven/TQA Posted June 22, 2006 Author Share Posted June 22, 2006 or what about round corners? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pseudografx Posted June 22, 2006 Share Posted June 22, 2006 (edited) or what about round corners? These are two possible solutions, though of course there can be more than that :-) Edited June 22, 2006 by pseudografx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pseudografx Posted June 22, 2006 Share Posted June 22, 2006 One more solution: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heaven/TQA Posted June 22, 2006 Author Share Posted June 22, 2006 the last one looks very good. now draw the NE yellow "top" side wall. btw. with round corners i mean like statue is on the edge between each side of the wall... ehm... difficult to describe... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heaven/TQA Posted June 22, 2006 Author Share Posted June 22, 2006 now my job is to adapt the level generator... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pseudografx Posted June 22, 2006 Share Posted June 22, 2006 (edited) the last one looks very good. now draw the NE yellow "top" side wall. btw. with round corners i mean like statue is on the edge between each side of the wall... ehm... difficult to describe... I don't quite understand which wall should I draw :-) You mean the other "mirrored" wall ending? Edited June 22, 2006 by pseudografx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heaven/TQA Posted June 22, 2006 Author Share Posted June 22, 2006 i am talking about this wall... can not wait to head home for playing around with it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heaven/TQA Posted June 22, 2006 Author Share Posted June 22, 2006 but in theory this is wrong as well but maybe ok? what do the others think about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pseudografx Posted June 22, 2006 Share Posted June 22, 2006 i am talking about this wall... can not wait to head home for playing around with it... hrm.. I thought it should be left as it is.. I have no idea to put there anything that would not cover the player that comes to that area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emkay Posted June 22, 2006 Share Posted June 22, 2006 the last one looks very good. now draw the NE yellow "top" side wall. btw. with round corners i mean like statue is on the edge between each side of the wall... ehm... difficult to describe... I don't quite understand which wall should I draw :-) You mean the other "mirrored" wall ending? Call it nitpicking, but you are using all 5 playfield colours for the level design. How, do you think, a "Diablo" game can be done further? We set one Hero then, using all PMg and move another enemy in the vertically splitted PM-range on the screen....? cool Again: the best solution is to leave all static level design. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heaven/TQA Posted June 22, 2006 Author Share Posted June 22, 2006 i want to have the PMs free for FX... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emkay Posted June 22, 2006 Share Posted June 22, 2006 i want to have the PMs free for FX... Me too To make the level more colourful, a clever DLI usage as in "Nibbly" would do well (the stones use 5 colours there...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heaven/TQA Posted June 22, 2006 Author Share Posted June 22, 2006 nibbly is static display like reaxion...remember we want to scroll Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pseudografx Posted June 22, 2006 Share Posted June 22, 2006 I completed the graphics to have both left and right finishing walls. Now this should be usable for generating some real levels :-) Btw. The door on the opposite wall is still missing, but perhaps it won't be used at all? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emkay Posted June 22, 2006 Share Posted June 22, 2006 nibbly is static display like reaxion...remember we want to scroll What stops you from roating a value synchronously with the scrolling? Hm.... you really want to scroll? Fine scroll? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heaven/TQA Posted June 22, 2006 Author Share Posted June 22, 2006 we will use stairs... but doors are always usabe... thanks PG. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heaven/TQA Posted June 22, 2006 Author Share Posted June 22, 2006 mk, not decied yet if its a hard- or softscroll... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rybags Posted June 22, 2006 Share Posted June 22, 2006 Why not just have the NW facing walls drawn, then put floor there if the player moves near them? Or, go the clipping route like I described before. Scrolling: maybe have 64 bytes per line. Allows some degree of l-r movement without having to do any redraw, plus makes address calculations much easier (just load base address from table, then OR in X value). Have x extra lines predrawn at top/bottom - x dependant on memory resources. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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