spookt Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 Anyway the reason people pronounce it wrong is that they've never seen that video (maybe they're so new at Linux that they don't even know who Linus is). Lots of words I know that I've only ever seen written, never heard pronounced... it's kind of an occupational hazard of reading too much. Yep same problem and same probable cause (too much reading) here. Anyhow to be honest I don't see that it matters much so long as people understand what you're talking about. There are at least 3 pronunciations of Linux in our office and we all know what each other means. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spookt Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 (edited) EDIT: Duplicate post deleted. Edited January 15, 2009 by spookt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kogden Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 Everyone I have ever met who has owned a 6502-based machine here in the US refers to it as a "Sixty Five Oh Two" and refer to the series as the "sixty five hundred series" as "six thousand five hundred" takes too much effort to say. I have never heard it referred to differently by anyone before. No.... I have never left the US. As for the 68K's..... The only way I've ever heard them read was: "sixty eight thousand" "sixty eight oh ten" "sixty eight oh twenty" "sixty eight oh thirty" etc. These speech patterns roll off the tongue much easier for us yanks. Most techs here would think you're either new in the field or a pompous douche for saying "six five zero two". It's also harder to say "six five zero two" as quickly or naturally as "sixty five oh two". That would be like insisting everyone called the 386 an 80386DX. Here they were always referred to as the "three eighty six" vs "three eight six" or "eight zero three eight six". Now I have heard "eight oh three eighty six" once or twice. Now I'm not making fun of anyone or insisting they're wrong, just pointing out some culture differences. Things might be different there. Most people here say "oh" here because they're lazy and it saves uttering a syllable. Has nothing to do with typing. Most fellow Americans I've ever met use "oh" in place of "zero" for most things unless they are reading a license plate tag, serial number, etc. If there's no mixed numbers and letters...."oh"="zero" usually. As for the SQL/Sequel thing...... IBM developed a db lang called SEQUEL (Structured English QUEry Language) for their early RDBMS efforts before the A8 ever existed. SEQUEL turned out to be someone else's trademark so they renamed it SQL (ess queue ell). By the time the first commercial RDBMS shipped, it was already called SQL. Personally, people calling it sequel around me at work drives me nuts. Ess Queue Ell is correct. SEQUEL sounds goofy to me and they changed the name on purpose before most people who call it "SEQUEL" were even born. QUEL is a valid though dying database language, SEQUEL is not. Anyway, figured I'd add my 2 cents.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marius Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 Sorry guys! The only way to say 6502 is: Vijf-en-zestig-nul-twee! So get yourself some practice and from now on say it in Dutch! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
analmux Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 (edited) In dutch I say : 6502 = "vijfenzestig nul twee". (And I learned this from my dad!) Similarly as in German: ... fünfundsechzig null zwei ... Similarly as in English: ... sixty-five oh two ... Edited February 9, 2012 by analmux Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kogden Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 Sixty-five oh two, and his good friends sixty-five oh seven and sixty-five ten, and big brother sixty-five eight sixteen. z80 - another grey area? How about "Zee-eight-oh" (kinda sounds like a hippy revival festival) Zed-eighty around here, and in the UK. Should be the same in .au too. That's not too different from the US. We refer to it as a "Zee Eighty" or "Eighty Eighty" for the original Intel version. Again, for most of us Zee-Eighty is easier for most of us to say quickly and naturally here. Now I understand what I was reading when I was looking at ZX81 info. It seems a lot of folks across the pond referred to them as their little "Zeddy". Was confused until now. I was expecting more endearing terms like "waste of good cassette tapes" but apparently a handful of people actually liked them. Poor bastards. I wouldn't punish my kids like that. It's just wrong.... maybe even abuse. The ZX81 is the only machine I've ever touched that made the Atari 400 keyboard look incredibly desirable. LOL I'll stop now...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freshy Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 As for the SQL ponunciation, it all depends on where and when you learned it. Some Oracle books from the nineties gave the suggested pronunciation as sequel, and not S-Q-L. I have heard it both ways by many technical types. I have been a DBA for over ten years and use both. Just depends on my mood. Regarding the original question, those here in the states who have been in the military are probably more likely to say six five zero two or six five oh two. They will instinctively avoid sixty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kogden Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 As for the SQL ponunciation, it all depends on where and when you learned it. Some Oracle books from the nineties gave the suggested pronunciation as sequel, and not S-Q-L. I have heard it both ways by many technical types. I have been a DBA for over ten years and use both. Just depends on my mood. Oracle didn't invent SQL, they just had the first widely available commercial SQL database. SEQUEL was a trademarked name taken by someone else and IBM changed it from SEQUEL to SQL for their R-System database pretty early on years before Oracle saw release. SEQUEL syntax in it's original form is not quite the same as SQL92 syntax much less anything newer than that. Regarding the original question, those here in the states who have been in the military are probably more likely to say six five zero two or six five oh two. They will instinctively avoid sixty. I'll concede there. On a noisy radio, shouting in loud environments, or reading a number to someone over the phone I avoid it as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kogden Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 oops I resucitated a dead thread by accident....sorry guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
visionik Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 Sixty Five oh two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmetal88 Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 Haha, I say 68030 as "six-eighty-thirty". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fibrewire Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 six five oh two cee pee you - it amazes me the troubles people go through to portmanteau absofuckinloutely everything -Whiskey Tango Foxtrot. Like that old television show "Beverly Hills Ninety-Aught Two-Ten" - meh, i'll shut up now... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heaven/TQA Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 hmm... let me think... I always say more six five zero two in German (sechs fünf null zwo) or was in Germany more common sixtyfive zero two? (fündundsechsig null 2) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andym00 Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 Wow, interesting.. Six five oh two. Six five eight one six.. Sixty eight K.. Sixty eight oh ten.. Sixty eight oh twenty.. Eighty eighty.. Eighty eighty eight Eight oh three eight six.. Zed eighty.. I think my rules are simple enough 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emkay Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 hmm... let me think... I always say more six five zero two in German (sechs fünf null zwo) or was in Germany more common sixtyfive zero two? (fündundsechzig null 2) Fünfundsechzignullzwo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sack-c0s Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 I have to go with andy moos list, and add 'thank f*** it's not an x86' as one of my chosen terms Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xxl Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 6502: sześć pięć zero dwa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R6502A Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 The eight letter of the english alphabet is it 'aitch' or 'haitch'. I say aitch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashjazzcat Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 It's aitch. Does anyone actually refer to the UK health service as the En-Haitch-Ess? I rest my case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R6502A Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 (edited) It's aitch. Does anyone actually refer to the UK health service as the En-Haitch-Ess? I rest my case. Agreed! Some ignorant people in the UK do use the argument that it's haitch because it has an 'H' sound. My retort is: would you pronounce the letter 'W' as wouble-wu? Edited February 10, 2012 by R6502A 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sloopy Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 X = eks... 'ex' is something COMPLETELY different ;') sloopy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashjazzcat Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 (edited) Agreed! Some ignorant people in the UK do use the argument that it's haitch because it has an 'H' sound. My retort is: would you pronounce the letter 'W' as wouble-wu? Quite so. Investigation of this issue led me to Stephen Fry's forum (the overwhelming concensus being in favour of "aitch", BTW). While both pronunciations may be technically acceptable, only one is awful. Edited February 10, 2012 by flashjazzcat 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R6502A Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 Agreed! Some ignorant people in the UK do use the argument that it's haitch because it has an 'H' sound. My retort is: would you pronounce the letter 'W' as wouble-wu? Quite so. Investigation of this issue led me to Stephen Fry's forum (the overwhelming concensus being in favour of "aitch", BTW). While both pronunciations may be technically acceptable, only one is awful. LOL! Is it sad that when I hear someone say 'haitch' my opinion of their intelligence level takes a complete nose dive? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emkay Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 (edited) The thread is getting funny You know why "W" is called "double u" It comes from that time when writing was some "hammering" of a staff into a hard material, to write. U and V was written the same, because it was easier to make two straight lines. Later the letters were released in U and VV and into V. If you read it as it was supposed, You could write "Will" as "UUill" . The funny point: You cannot read it as it is supposed. The englisch language has changed very much since the "Alphabet" has been created. Thus spoken words differ from written words.... too much in several cases. It's really worth a thought, when words like "Jesus Christ" can be written as "Cheeseos Cryst" Edited February 10, 2012 by emkay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R6502A Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 I have just realised that I should not be contributing to this incorrectly titled thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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